If you’re like me, you haven’t slept well for weeks. It feels like we’re living in some alternate reality. I’ve spoken to hundreds of other people who are fervently praying that this attempted coup of our country fails. Surely we can’t go down like this. Not the Nation Under God, the City on the Hill! Not the Land our Fathers and Mothers have fought for — have given their lives for!
My family came to this land in 1635. I’m so grateful to my great-great—grandfather who commandeered his own small vessel to the British American colonies in search of something greater. Like many of your ancestors, mine fought in all the great wars that have preserved our freedoms. They fought for both the North and the South in the Civil War that nearly destroyed our Great Union of States. They truly gave their wealth, their honor and their lives for what we have so richly enjoyed.
No nation on earth has what America has — a divinely given Constitution, and a people whose majority still hopefully worship Almighty God. While I worry that our days our numbered as a nation, I am still praying we survive this latest attempted coup. Please Dear Lord, if it be Your Will, spare Your vineyard a little longer.
When I was in DC, an attorney named Sidney Powell made a statement that they were going to “release the Kraken.” Sidney Powell is one of the most feared and respected lawyers in America. She was admitted to law school at age 19 and has had an amazing career. She’s best known lately for taking over representation for General Michael Flynn, who was pardoned today by President Trump, after being set up by Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Jim Comey and others in a seditious hoax obstruction trap. His family was threatened by a vile and corrupt DOJ led by the aforementioned criminal politicians, and so he pled guilty to false charges, which plea he later withdrew.
Although I knew Powell was credible, “releasing the Kraken” seemed like hyperbole. But, she continued to mention it, nearly every time she spoke.
And then, Lin Wood, another amazing attorney from Georgia, known for his representation of Richard Jewell, Nicolas Sandman, and Kyle Rittenhouse — and who is consulting Sidney Powell and indirectly the Trump team, recently re-posted something about what the Kraken might actually be:
Click on the link above to learn more. According to this article, the “Kraken” is actually a DoD-run cyber warfare program that tracks and hacks various other systems to acquire evidence of nefarious actions by the deep state. Trump loyalists in the Air Force, Space Command and now in certain sectors of the DoD and even the NSA have all the evidence of vote fraud and election-related treason. Trump has all this now and will be using it against the enemies of America very soon.” (see source)
Now, admittedly when I read this and saw that the mainstream news media (MSM) was reporting that the Trump administration was distancing itself from Powell (and I assumed Wood), I became discouraged that perhaps this is all hyperbole and too good to be true.
As I write this, and as a skeptic, I concede and admit that it all still sounds too good to be true, BUT I do think the following ideas are very interesting and promising:
Now we know that Sidney Powell and the Trump legal team have simply bifurcated their legal arguments. This allows Powell to be a little more bold in her approach without risking all the claims and arguments. She’s attacking Dominion Voting Systems among other things. She can go for the jugular without tainting Trump.
“Powell is registered as a military lawyer and can prosecute treason…” (Source)
Upon concern that Trump has been strangely quiet of late, Powell tweeted to not worry that “Trump can now sit back and relax and watch because he has released the Kraken…”
Lin Wood has mentioned numerous times that “Biden is going to Prison.” And that hundreds of other high ranking officials and people will go to prison when all comes to light. Everyone will be exposed! He said it will shock us to find out who has occupied the White House in past administrations. Pedophiles and criminals. Bold indeed!
If Lin Wood (or Sidney Powell) was tweeting something false about the military (i.e. the DOD program Kraken), one would think that General Flynn would correct him or ask Sidney to.
Even Twitter doesn’t censor Wood. Remember he just won a defamation case for a rumored $250,000,000 against CNN for his 18 year old client Nicholas Sandman. He is both credible and feared.
Trump mysteriously and abruptly fired his Defense Secretary Mark Esper immediately after the election and replaced him with Christopher Miller, a known Trump loyalist and patriot who was acting as the Director of National Counterterrorism. No one knows what to think of this. Why fire and replace your DOD secretary when you fear election fraud?
Miller immediately led a DOD seizure of servers located in Germany, that are believed to contain evidence of election fraud and foreign interference, among other criminal activities. These servers were alleged to be CIA servers…
This seizure was done without the CIA’s (Gina Haspel) and without the DOJ’s (Chris Wray/Bill Barr) knowledge. It seems unprecedented to take CIA servers or any servers without consulting these two department heads.
The DOJ has already said it won’t be doing anything to investigate election fraud. This is also shocking and makes NO SENSE. Now, I know some are convinced that the DOJ and FBI are completely incompetent, but even as corrupt as they may be, NOT investigating fraud in this year’s election seems implausible…
Unless DOD is handling it!!!! I.e. the release of the Kraken! Miller and Trump may very well be acting to protect against enemies domestic and foreign and won’t be needing DOJ for now. Are we talking war crimes? Espionage charges? Military tribunals?
Then last night Trump tweeted the same story as Lin Wood:
Why on earth would President Trump, who is in charge of the military, tweet a story that isn’t true?
Is this the Trump card? Trump knew this was coming and warned it would be the greatest fraud we have ever seen, even greater than the Russia and impeachment hoaxes. When I heard that I thought it was just Trump being dramatic. None of us could have imagined, after all we’ve seen in 2020, that there would be something bigger than CoVid, Russia Hoax, Impeachment Hoax, etc.
And because he knew it was coming, it would seem impossible for Trump to do nothing to prepare….
In 2018, Trump signed an executive order (EO) that very few people are aware of, which “created command structure to combat election fraud.” (See it here)
This EO declares a State of Emergency and gives the president and his administration very broad powers to combat election interference. Ironically, this EO was seen as a Trump apology by the MSM so as to appear as to be concerned with the election interference he and Russia were accused of in 2016, i.e. the first great conspiracy against Trump, which included illegal, treasonous spying on American citizens with fraudulently acquired warrants. Now it appears it may have been a brilliant move by Trump who knew this was coming.
Meanwhile, the MSM and many dishonest and/or foolish people have coronated their president-elect Biden into an office that doesn’t even exist, and before the electoral college or even the States have certified the results. Trump has vowed he is not conceding.
I should also point out that Wood and Powell and others have accused Republican and Democratic governors of making backdoor deals with China during the CoVid pandemic and of self interested deals with Dominion.
I still believe Trump will pull this off. Even while Biden picks his cabinet and picks out his drapes. Notice that Kamala Harris has yet to quit her Senate seat. They are all pretending like they’ve won and like Trump is being a pig for not conceding, and the MSM is acting like there isn’t a shred of evidence of fraud. Ignore the fact that Pennsylvania sent out 1.8 million mail in ballots and received 2.5 million back. Ignore the 4 am data dumps all for Biden that overcame 800,000 vote leads in one state alone. Ignore the hundreds of whistleblowers and the thousands of eye witnesses. Ignore all the video! Ignore the truth and tell us we are crazy. Trump was impeached because of ONE whistleblower who proved to be a corrupt insider and who wasn’t even a firsthand eyewitness! And here, we have countless whistleblowers and thousands of pages of affidavits from eyewitnesses and yet no one cares!!!!! I have news for you — America isn’t going down like this.
And I’m sorry, but where is Mitt Romney? Where was President Nelson when he had the opportunity in his address to the world? Is it too “political” to make a statement as the Church President and as a World Global Faith Leader (as he’s being now called) to call out lies, corruption, cheating, fraud and scandal as it pertains to one of our most important institutions? I know he made a casual reference to “dishonesty,” but it was very broad.
Why is Lin Wood, an attorney in Georgia, more bold and more righteously indignant about this attempted coup than the President of the only true and living Church? More inspiring? Aren’t the prophets suppose to weigh in on such things? Moroni sure did. Joseph Smith sure did. Ezra Taft Benson sure did. Moroni wrote letters to Pahoran, the Governor and called him out for what he thought was sedition. He warned he would come and destroy Pahoran or anyone who sought to overthrow their freedoms.
Is the Church so concerned about its “safety” that it will never again be courageous in its statements on abortion, LBGTQ issues, socialism and communism, the Constitution… or unwilling to call out fraud when it threatens to literally topple our government? The very government that is intended to protect our religious freedoms! Biden and the Leftists literally want to encourage 5 year olds to embrace their transgenderism. Just google it. It should disgust anyone from any background. Why would the Church NOT be more vocal against such important issues? About this election being stolen by those who promise to turn our Nation into a perverted, progressive, hedonist paradise!
There are even Democrats like Overstock founder Patrick Byrnes who are standing up to fight! Why? Because it’s the right thing to do! And if good people do nothing, evil prevails and in this case NO ONE WILL EVER BE ABLE TO HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THEIR VOTE AGAIN!
Instead, we are told to use the very social media platforms complicit in stealing this election to #givethanks. It’s like saying, “Hey, I know the boat we’re on is sinking, but let’s take 7 days to carve the things we’re grateful for onto the ship’s walls.” Hell no, I say! Get up and do something to help save this our Country! And while you’re at it, get OFF social media!
Let’s all pray in the meantime, that Release the Kraken or something like unto it is real. I think if this darkness is exposed and people finally go to prison for their crimes, and for a brief moment truth prevails, I will fall to my knees and weep. I could be wrong in all this, but I will for now speak what I believe to be truth.
I am consoled to know that our Lord loved His Nation too. His will be done, not ours, on earth and in Heaven and may glory be to Him, who is Worthy, forever and ever, Amen and Amen.
I was privileged to be one of more than 1 million peaceful protesters in Washington DC this past weekend. I felt strongly I needed to be there. I’ve been feeling strongly about a lot of things lately. I decided to cancel all my social media accounts last week. Many in Big Tech believe they are the lawful arbiters of free speech. They censor anyone who disagrees with them. They are peddling propaganda and I believe are complicit in trying to steal this year’s elections. These companies are so self-righteously smug and hypocritical. They let psychopaths livestream beheadings and publish porn, but won’t let someone share conservative ideas that oppose their viewpoint and expose their agenda. They are bullies and it is they who are Fascists and who control free speech.
I also canceled mainstream news, most notably Fox News. It’s obvious these people mock us who love our country, our God, our families, and our religion. And they too, are complicit in the fake polling and in encouraging election fraud, in part by sustaining this fake president elect even before he’s been certified as such and while the election is being legally contested in many states by countless parties. It’s obvious to any honest person that there was massive fraud in this election, and yet almost no mainstream media outlet wants to look into it. It’s shameful and it’s treasonous.
I’ve also canceled the NBA, NFL, MLB, MLS, and Hollywood. I canceled Netflix and YouTubeTV and many other Apps. They all want to cancel us and our freedom, so I’ve decided to cancel them. I can’t just sit back and let these people take over our nation. None of us freedom loving people can.
I was surprised when I landed in DC at how few American flags there were. There used to be one on every building and on every lapel. But this time it felt dark. People dressed in black and many people openly sharing their disgust for our president and for our “system” that they say is only working for a few, privileged white people. One Uber driver said she hoped things never returned to “normal.” “The masks are great, the riots and violence are great.” She and many other locals seemed very happy with BLM and Antifa. “It’s time to burn it all down and do something different.”
I became discouraged that my trip was in vain and that perhaps few people would attend the pro America rally the next day on November 14th.
Then, I began to see people here and there in town and at our hotel, who were coming in from all over the country with flags on their cars. People wearing Make America Great Again hats and Trump t-shirts. It gave me some hope.
The next day as I walked to Freedom Plaza to meet the group, I became overwhelmed with emotion. There were not hundreds, or thousands of people. There were hundreds OF thousands and some said, as many as 2 million people, in attendance! A sea of red, white, and blue! Families, small children, baby strollers, moms, dads, old people, vets, people in wheelchairs. Singing the national anthem, and God Bless America. Chanting USA! People of all colors and from all backgrounds! From all 50 states and from many countries! I met people from Chile and China and Hong Kong. Almost no one wearing masks, in fact many saying they believed that CoVid was not a pandemic at all. Chinese people handing out anti-CCP literature alleging that China created and let this virus loose to do exactly what we are witnessing. To destroy Western civilization and to get rid of Trump.
I began to walk with these patriots and was so profoundly touched that I was not alone in my love for my country! The Amish were there! Catholic priests! Jews! I sang with them. I prayed with them. No one social distanced. People shook my hand, gave me hugs, spit in my face as they talked! It was so refreshing to be human again. To be American again!
Surely if CoVid as a veritable pandemic is real, which I don’t believe it is, this should be the greatest super spreader event of the century! 1+ million people from all 50 states going home after zero social distancing and no masks. Time will tell.
There was such a contrast between these people who descended upon Washington and those who live there. Many who feed off the DC swamp seemingly have lost their way. These Patriots came in and with their singing and smiling faces, brought a Spirit back to this spiritually war torn Capitol. A Spirit that said, “WE WILL NOT HAVE OUR FREEDOM STOLEN FROM US! WE WILL NOT LET THIS BE DONE IN DARKNESS!”
After we sang the National Anthem, a huge bird (hawk or eagle) appeared out of nowhere and flew directly over our heads and circled around. A woman near me cried out, “It’s a sign!”
I have never experienced anything quite like this in all my life. At one point, president Trump was said to have driven through part of the crowd, waving and smiling and showing his gratitude for the outpouring of support.
Here are some more pictures from this amazing day.
We listened to rousing patriotic speeches from Congressional leaders. There were TV personalities. My favorite speech was from a black democrat named Vernon Jones. He was awesome! We visited with each other. There was no violence. No arguing. Everyone was friendly and all felt safe. I noticed as I talked to people that there was a consensus that this election is being stolen from President Trump and from many other Republican candidates and that NONE of these people were willing to stand idly by and let it happen.
This was in stark contrast to what I was sensing from the locals I met who not only celebrated a Biden victory, but who also were doing all they could to show support for BLM and Antifa. Signs in windows and in front of churches. Perhaps so that they would not be vandalized or perhaps because they too are fooled into sympathy for a transgender terrorist organization.
As the million+ crowd of American patriots peacefully dispersed, and as it became dark, Antifa and BLM took to the streets and began to terrorize these good people. This was a picture of them as they walked by where we sat for dinner on the sidewalk. Sadly, the local couple next to us began cheering and dancing when these animals blasted their F-Trump rap music and spewed vile racist profanity. One of their gangster leaders had a megaphone and was getting everyone all riled up. He looked at me and I thought he might come over and harass us as we ate. The restaurant owner ran out and began cheering for them! Moments earlier I watched her turn down a large party of young college student MAGA supporters, saying their group was too large, even though there was plenty of room in her restaurant. It was all very unsettling.
This man with the megaphone was later arrested for knocking out a man out for no reason, among many other things. He has a criminal record and is a convicted child molester.
And then these evil animals stomped and kicked this innocent man as he lay in the street. What was his crime? He supported his president. He loved his country.
I went back to my hotel room and watched the news of other violence and like you, I became so angry and at one point just cried. Children, old people, special needs people — all being tormented by these criminals who hate America.
A week earlier, many of these same people danced in the streets. Ignoring their own rules of social distancing. They had no flags. No red, white, and blue.
No Trump supporters attacked them. They were allowed to express themselves without any concern for their well-being.
The only flags to be seen across the country for those celebrating a Biden victory, seem only to be Gay Pride flags. I think this shows where their allegiance lies.
As I watch these events unfold, I mourn what I witness to be the unraveling of our great nation.
America is still a little behind nation’s like Germany who are breaking into people’s homes to arrest them for being “anti-lockdown.” Videos like this one below should truly be disturbing IF in fact this Doctor is being arrested for not complying with CoVid lockdown laws.
I say we are “close behind”, but I’m not sure that’s accurate. Even here in Utah, our rights are being trampled upon by our Governor. And we’ve seen soccer moms arrested and pepper sprayed for not having a mask on while outside in some states. And now these crazies are canceling Thanksgiving and trying to control our freedom to assemble.
I personally am not conceding nor will I give up! It is 100% obvious to me and millions of others that this election was rigged and that these evil people want to take over our country. I predict that the fraud will be uncovered sufficiently so as to secure a Trump victory and possibly even control of the House in addition to the Senate. It would be ironic if the new Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett breaks any tie in the Supreme Court. If I’m wrong, which is very possible, it may be peaceful enough in the short term, but it will be the end of the USA as we know it.
I am so grateful for people like Sidney Powell and Lin Wood, attorneys advising the Trump administration. They are people of unquestioned integrity. They are truth tellers, patriots, and spiritual warriors. May God bless them and protect them. May we all pray for them and for our President.
I’m almost more concerned about what happens if and when my prediction comes true and Trump wins. I think it could be the beginning of a civil war. When it is shown that this and MOST elections in our world are pre-determined by a group of global elites whose “dominion” covers the entire earth, the very jaws of hell will gape open. Darkness will rear its vile head and inspire the hearts of men to violence like we have never seen.
And the Kraken has been released…
So, what will you do to defend our Constitution? What can we do? I’d say join in peaceful rallies and protests. Call our nation’s leaders. Write them. Email them. Let them know how you feel! Fast and pray. Get your house in order. What’s at stake? Everything good. If we lose this battle, we lose our nation.
Tomorrow the president of the LDS Church will address the world. I hope and I pray that he talks about the importance of our Constitution, our freedoms, and our religious liberty. I hope he denounces specifically the violence of BLM and Antifa. I hope he does not say a word about “racism” — further fueling that false narrative of those organizations. I hope he’s bold! I hope he does NOT allege or assume that Joe Biden has won this election. I hope he denounces cheating and fraud and I hope he calls it out. I hope he speaks in favor of the rule of law. I hope he encourages people to get involved in the fight for freedom. I hope he reminds church members to get involved and to not be afraid to exercise God-given rights. I hope he calls out the hoax of this “pandemic.” I hope he calls for faith and not fear. I hope he reminds us that we have a right and a duty to be civilly disobedient to laws and edicts that are unconstitutional. I hope he doesn’t cave to the whims of political correctness and bow the knee to hypocrites making policies they themselves are unwilling to obey. I hope President Nelson stands up for truth tomorrow.
This is communism and socialism or it is freedom. This is good versus evil. This is gay marriage in our temples and the continuation of their leftist indoctrination of our children. This is abortion on demand and court packing. This is give me liberty or give me death. This is about Dominion. We now know that they cheat and once they are back in power, their dominion will be over the entire world.
President Nelson has an opportunity to clarify where the Church stands, rather than leaving it to LDS politicians.
We are at the greatest crossroads our nation has perhaps ever faced. Our Constitution literally hangs by a thread. Every freedom we hold dear is in jeopardy. Our speech and even our very ideas are already being censored and controlled. This is real. How it’s happening is beyond me, but it is happening.
Our freedom to worship is being controlled. Some in our country are still not allowed to attend Church, even after almost a year of staying home. Utah just imposed, by illegal governor decree, new stricter regulations that prevent visitors in our own homes. Sports are canceled. Masks must now be worn everywhere and by all, businesses not complying will receive a $10,000 fine per incident. What world are we living in? And why is conservative Utah all of a sudden going the other way? Does it have anything to do with the so-called “president-elect Joe Biden?” Is this in preparation for a new Pharoah and for his new reign? So we can “practice” getting along with the new socialist administration?
And yet, this presidential race is far from over.And every Constitution-loving soul should raise their voice and contribute to the cause in any legal, ethical way they feel inspired to!
I want to know where the dissent is among Latter-day Saints. Where is the outrage? Where is the fight? Where are the patriots who cannot, who WILL NOT let this nation be ripped from us? Are you so focused on “obeying the laws of the land” that you will let our very laws be upended? Does one obey the new “laws” under a Hitler regime? Or do you fight against them? Do you practice “diplomacy” or do you practice dissent?
So much is at stake! The promise of court-packing and added liberal states and Senators. Eliminating the electoral college. The continuation of big brother-big tech, unchecked. Revenge enemy lists being compiled by leftists. Social credit. The complete destruction (perhaps intentional) of our economy. Hollywood at the helm. The DOJ and military corrupted further, weaponized to spy on and punish citizens. And every scandal we’ve seen!?… will disappear as quickly as Hillary’s emails. They will control everything and will never let go again.
This election was not just about ideas or left versus right. Democrat versus Republican. It is literally the last battle over our Gentile nation. The City on the Hill. This is not just another election where “ya win some and ya lose some.” This was and is the most important election in American history. If it’s lost, America is gone.
And yet, Mitt Romney, the Mormon Senator (not from Utah), is doing TV interview after TV interview, praising Joe Biden and Kamala Harris as the winners of this uncertified, still contested election. “This election was a referendum on one man…on a personality… Trump should display grace, which he’s incapable of and make this a peaceful transition… to a good man and a woman of great character, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.” Mormon Jeff Flake even voted for Joe Biden! As is likely for Romney.
How dare our Senator undermine our election process!? Romney basks in the sunlight as if somehow vindicated by the media promoted, alleged Biden victory. I pray to God Romney is wrong.
Meanwhile, it’s not over by any stretch. Not so long as good people stand up and speak the truth. And the truth is, as surely the whole world suspects,this election is being stolen. This is not conspiracy talk. This is reality. And if they can succeed this time, they will succeed every time.
And by the way Senator Romney, we have a process wherein the Mainstream Media does not declare winners and losers of elections. That’s not their job and it’s sure as hell not yours. Yes, we believe in a free press but that does not make you and them our election arbiters. Romney’s complicity in meddling in the results of this election, I hope will never be forgotten.
Romney, as a Mormon, should know better. The Church, I pray, does not share his arrogant, shortsighted world view. Mormons have led so many great causes! Prop 8, as one example. The fight against Gay Marriage. They have stood for religious liberty! For America! For freedom!
But, has the Church lost some perspective also? Why doesn’t it denounce Mitt Romney and Jeff Flake and Frank Fox? Has the Church become so globally focused that its allegiance to America is dissipating? They make deals with communist nations and pay fees (bribes) to advance their cause abroad. This is a reality. I did business in China for years and I can tell you that in order to ship packages from China to the US, you have to bribe the Chinese government. Just to ship a package. Imagine what goes on to get missionaries into countries or to get meetinghouses and temples approved and built.
Has the Church become too comfortable with its ability to influence governments with its billions of dollars and with its diplomatic and legal prowess so that it’s okay with America becoming just another lost nation? Where is the dissent from the Church? An election is being STOLEN right before our eyes! Where is your press release? Where is your statement on election integrity? On the Consitution being an inspired document? Does our Godly inspired Constitution not merit the dissent of a Church, or its leaders and its people, when crimes against it are being committed? Do you really think we can afford to let it slip away? Let others fight the good fight and we say and do nothing?
The Church’s website today, as this election is contested, and while our Constitution hangs in the balance, highlights this article:
Is this prophetic? Is this seership? Elder Oaks may want to know that #BLM tweeted this after election night, “F*ck Trump, F*ck Biden, death to America! We want something better than this trash, and we’re going to take it.” (Source)
Who is racist Elder Oaks? Them or us? Should the Church really be focused on fake racism and playing into the false liberal narrative while an election is being stolen? What do you wish to accomplish by giving them a voice? Not a mention of the election or of the Constitution. Sad.
I was on Twitter on the eve of the election last week and saw that there was a call to prayer organized by Lara Trump. Curious, I joined in. There were dozens and dozens of prominent Christian leaders, each displayed in a little Zoom box on the computer screen. Each participant took turns praying. Pleading. Begging God to bless our nation with four more years of Donald Trump. They each listed their reasons as they petitioned our Lord. The unborn children being slaughtered. The forces trying to destroy the family. To maintain our freedoms of religion and of speech and to be able to bear arms. Prayers against the lasciviousness of Hollywood and the perverse sexualization of our nation. The prayers went on for well over an hour. One could hear the sincerity of these heartfelt prayers. Some were emotional. All were passionate. There were many amens and praises to God. I knelt down in reverence and raised my hands towards heaven in prayer with these fellow Christians I did not know. As they prayed I remarked at how different our LDS prayers are from theirs. As they finally concluded, they thanked all the Christian churches which they said included “almost all Christian faiths.” But I noticed that there were no LDS church leaders on this call. Not a single LDS prayer.
The Christians of this nation, by and large, support our President. They know that he, although imperfect, IS a fierce defender of our Constitution. He supports life. He supports freedom. He supports and loves our country. He is FOR the rule of law. I assume the LDS Church also holds these values dear, but I’m not sure they support our President. I hope and I pray BYU Professor Frank Fox is wrong. I hope the Brethren are at least secretly supporting him.
IF they are supporting him, I would suggest that now is the time to be making it clear where our Church stands! Do we stand with our fellow Christians? Can we proclaim that we will suffer death rather than give up our freedoms?Our right to defend ourselves? To worship where and how and when we choose! With all its influence in Utah, why isn’t the Church pushing to open our state rather than shut it down?
A word on this pandemic. I can say it, because I’m not a Church leader or a politician trying to keep his office. This IS NOT a PANDEMIC! AND YET, look at the freedoms we have relinquished when ONLY 230,000 people (MAYBE) have died “with” CoVid. Not 7+ million as some false prophet-fool had proclaimed. Now, I recognize that many people are vulnerable to this virus. Those people should be careful like one would with any virus or flu. The rest of us should be business as usual. We should not live in fear. We should not wear masks unless we are somehow vulnerable. I have tried to catch this virus! And as Dave Chapelle says, “It’s as hard to catch as the kid from Home Alone!” This is a plandemic, not a pandemic. I bet a dollar that this was a Chinese designed virus aimed at helping the world get rid of Trump. Call it crazy. But if you think this is a pandemic, I’m sorry, THE SCIENCE you worship simply does not support it.
Your “scientists” are the same ones counting votes in MI and PA and WI and GA and Nevada. The same scientists who created Dominion Voting Systems (interesting name). The software now in question for having potentially changed millions of votes in 28 states. The software that the Clinton Foundation has helped fund. The word dominion means to dominate, rule, or control, among other things. The Left is absolutely trying to unrighteously dominate this election. To dominate our Nation and to surrender US to the Global Society.
This is a time of great urgency. Most of us see it for what it is. This is the fight for our nation. If America goes, the world goes. Millions, if not billions will suffer and will die, IF and WHEN we lose America. The Church will not flourish under Biden and under Socialism. It will perish. The world economy will perish. Our freedom to worship will be conditioned and controlled. It is foolish to try to be friendly with a Biden Harris regime. WE MUST FIGHT AGAINST IT! There is still time!
Let us remember the words of Winston Churchill and let us DISSENT from this current trend to ACCEPT the results of a FAKE election!:
“We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France (Michigan and in Pennsylvania and in Georgia and in Arizona and in Wisconsin), we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this Island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God’s good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old.”
My words added in parantheses.
STAND UP PATRIOTS! STAND UP LATTER-DAY SAINTS! DO NOT LET THIS election be stolen! This should be our battle cry! We MUST flood the airwaves and the Internet with our VOICES! We MUST fill the streets! We MUST RALLY for the cause of AMERICA!
Zion will come, that is certain. But, we will not be worthy of Zion if we do not fight for the very system God ordained it to stem from. America and the Constitution are the templates and while Jehovah may replace it with His Kingdom, WE MUST FIGHT FOR WHAT HE HAS ALREADY ESTABLISHED. In my humble opinion. It is not a coincidence that an earthquake knocked a trump from the Angel Moroni’s lips this year, just as the Plandemic was starting and now the year ends with a Trump being robbed of our 72 million votes. The trumps are sounding and the Lord shall soon return. But to stop fighting for righteousness IS NO WAY TO PREPARE FOR HIS RETURN.
The Church has a history of wanting to be seen as en vogue when it comes to popular political causes. The most recent example of this is Elder Dallin H. Oaks’s speech at BYU this week where he proclaims, “Black lives matter an eternal truth all reasonable people should support.”
Of course, Elder Oaks issues a few caveats that the Church doesn’t condone violence and the tearing down of statues, but to be sure that he is not just borrowing popular words to teach a different sermon, Oaks makes sure to include his disgust for the “shocking police-produceddeath of George Floyd in Minnesota.”
With such an extensive legal background, Elder Oaks should realize the dangers of making such bold statements, especially while the case against the police officers is still being adjudicated.
As tragic as was his death, Floyd has become a false hero in a false propaganda war intent on inciting the overthrow of our government. His death has been hijacked. His name is now being exploited for devilish purposes.
We’ve learned some things since the tragic death of Goerge Floyd that were not known at the time or withheld. None of this is intended to justify or exonerate anyone, but surely all of us should want the facts to come to light before making final judgments.
George Floyd had fatal, lethal levels of fentanyl in his system (one of the reasons he was unable to breathe).
Floyd said he couldn’t breathe way before he was on the ground.
Floyd, who was high on drugs, asked to be put on the ground, saying he couldn’t breathe and wanted to lie down on the street.
The police officers called the ambulance because they were concerned about Floyd’s mental and physical health.
Floyd had a long history of violence and crime and recent arrests.
The full video of the altercation with Floyd and other crucial facts to the case were intentionally kept from public view by the media.
Charges against the police officers involved are being dropped or lessened because of the evidence being examined.
For these reasons and many others, Elder Oaks and the Church are unwise to condemn men who still await their day in Court. Instead of throwing fuel on the fire, the Church should be calling for law and order and justice through the normal judicial processes.
Instead, they court the Black Lives Matter banner, which as we’ve already pointed out, represents a host of evil ideas, principles, and activities that they or any “reasonable person” should want to disassociate themselves from.
The Church could instead be taking the opportunity to fight against good words being used to now mean evil things rather than legitimizing the new, reckless definitions.
Why not pick up the banner of ALL LIVES mattering? Why not use their pulpit to make this a focus on baby lives mattering? It’s a great opportunity that counters the false narrative and shows good people that we still stand up for truth, even when it’s unpopular. Of course, black lives matter — everyone knows that and should believe it. But, Black Lives Matter doesn’t value black lives, that’s for sure. Not conservative ones. Not black police officers. Not black babies. Not black youth being killed in America’s cities largely by other blacks.
What if the same logic was being used for other misleading causes? “Being pro-choice is an eternal principle. All reasonable people should support being pro-choice.” An argument could certainly be made that members of the Church believe in the freedom to choose. But, does this send a mixed message? Might this confuse people into believing that the Church is pro-abortion? Or that choice has no consequences. Add to that, the marching in pro-choice parades by the likes of prominent Church members such as Mitt Romney and statements that seemed to take the side of the wrong team, and might that send a mixed message.
How about marriage equality? “Marriage equality is an eternal principle. All reasonable people should support marriage equality.” Sure sounds nice. But again, what message does that send? Marriage equality is code for gay marriage. Another example of nice words being twisted to mean something different.
Mormons building bridges? Is this also an eternal principle? Should we join in parades where sex toys and vagina hats are part and parcel? Is everything an eternal principle if you squint at it long enough? If we legalize it?
My vote is for the Church to counter the message of the world and stop trying to appeal to everyone. The gospel message is for everyone, true, but let’s not water down our message in order to appease people who frankly hate faith in God and want to destroy the nuclear family.
Follow Up Comment I received by email, which I think makes a great point:
Saw your recent post about BLM and President Oaks talk he gave at BYU this week. I wasn’t able to leave a comment on that post but leaving it here. One thing you didn’t mention in the post but which strikes me as bizarre was this phrase from President Oaks Talk: (the last sentence most specifically)
“The shocking police-produced death of George Floyd in Minnesota last May was surely the trigger for these nationwide protests, whose momentum was carried forward under the message of ‘Black Lives Matter,’” President Oaks added. “Of course, Black lives matter. That is an eternal truth all reasonable people should support. Unfortunately, that persuasive banner was sometimes used or understood to stand for other things that do not command universal support. Examples include abolishing the police or seriously reducing their effectiveness or changing our constitutional government. All these are appropriate subjects for advocacy, but not under what we hope to be the universally accepted message: Black lives matter.”
Ok so let me get this straight: 1. abolishing the police or seriously reducing their effectiveness 2. Changing our constitutional government.
All “these” are appropriate subjects for advocacy??? President Oaks is saying the only issue with them is that they were promoted under the banner of BLM? But if we don’t put them under that banner…. they are then appropriate subjects for advocacy? Changing our constitutional government? Really?
Utah Senator Mike Lee compared President Donald Trump to Captain Moroni in a recent Trump-Pence campaign event in Arizona, which has a very large LDS population, and which has become a swing state. The Salt Lake Tribune covers the story, which I include below. Because Lee has received a lot of criticism for his comments from LDS and non-LDS people alike, I want to take a moment to weigh in.
Senator, thank you for your courage and for being willing to speak the truth. You realize, unlike some members of our Church, that President Trump, love him or hate him, is the last man standing between freedom and tyranny in this the United States of America. I wish Mitt Romney had 1/10 of your courage and humility.
Your humility is especially refreshing as most of us remember that you were a never-Trumper with Mitt 4 years ago. But, you, like many of us, have seen the results of this President, who has lowered taxes, reduced regulations, been unabashedly pro-life, nominated 3 conservative Justices to the Supreme Court, funded our military while bringing troops home, supported law enforcement, supported Israel, supported governors and states during times of crisis, and much more… And now, realize that this is a man who is doing all that he promised and more.
I fully support your leadership in our State and Nation and love your comparison between President Trump and Captain Moroni. Honest people know and appreciate the message being conveyed and I think it’s quite apt and timely. Thank you, Senator Lee!
Americans may have called President Donald Trump just about everything possible this year, good and bad. But standing by his side at an Arizona rally on Wednesday, Sen. Mike Lee called him something new to urge Latter-day Saints to vote for him: “Captain Moroni.”
“To my Mormon friends, my Latter-day Saint friends,” Lee, R-Utah, said as he pointed to Trump standing by his side, “think of him as Captain Moroni. He seeks not power, but to pull it down.”
Lee added, “He seeks not the praise of the world or the ‘fake news,’ but he seeks the well-being and the peace of the American people.”
He then asked a crowd with many cheering Latter-day Saints — which a video shows had many sitting close together without masks — “Are you willing to stand with me and millions and millions of others who want four more years?” A loud cheer followed.
Lee, an Arizona native, campaigned at numerous rallies in that swing state on Tuesday and Wednesday, including one sponsored by Latter-day Saints for Trump. The president’s campaign spokesperson Samantha Zager said earlier that was part of a “concerted effort with our outreach to the LDS community in Arizona and Nevada, seeking to expand President Trump’s base of support.”
Polling has showed former Vice President Joe Biden having a narrow lead over Trump in the swing state.
Lee comparing Trump and Captain Moroni — who is a different character than the prophet and later angel Moroni whose statue tops many of the faith’s temples — quickly brought attacks on social media and elsewhere.
“These are the moves of a desperate campaign, one that fails to understand that governing from the extreme right does not work for our United States,” Rob Taber, president of Latter-day Saints for Biden Harris, wrote in a news release.
Taber complained that it was another example of how “Latter-day Saints for Trump, who never signed Mormon Women for Ethical Government’s pledge, have time and again exploited our shared faith. They have willfully used sacred symbols, including the temple multiple times, in their propaganda.”
Social media also erupted over Lee’s comments, from humorous to condemning.
Sam Houston State historian Benjamin Park tweeted, “I didn’t think I’d have to say this, and I don’t feel like writing a whole op-ed about it, but let me be clear: Donald Trump is not a Captain Moroni.”
@hmdoppelganger tweeted, “@SenMikeLee you humiliate your state and your religion. And Captain Moroni.”
Instead of describing Trump as Captain Moroni, Barbara Jones Brown tweeted that Lee should have realized “King Noah is more like it.” He was an evil ruler in the Book of Mormon who overtaxed his people to support harlots, and who burned a prophet at the stake for criticizing him.
@reluctanteng tweeted, “@SenMikeLee, I knew Captain Moroni. Captain Moroni was a friend of mine. @realDonaldTrump, you’re no Captain Moroni.”
After the backlash, Lee posted a statement on Facebook to explain his remarks.
“Some people found that comparison upsetting, blasphemous, and otherwise wrong,” he noted. “I respect their right to feel that way, and realize that my impromptu comments may not have been the best forum for drawing a novel analogy from scripture.”
Lee went on to say that he never meant to suggest that Trump was a prophet or “should [b]e revered as a religious leader.”
Instead, Lee said he meant to convey that he sees Trump differently than he once did and illustrate parallels between Captain Moroni and Trump. Where Captain Moroni “s[ought] not for power, but to pull it down,” Trump has tried to “drain the swamp,” Lee said.
“In short,” Lee wrote about the comparison, “Donald Trump has far exceeded my expectations by sticking to his effort to reform the federal government even when it’s hard and unpopular.”
During that same rally Wednesday, Lee also sought to appeal to evangelicals and Protestants.
“To my Protestant and evangelical friends, we have to remember that it is by the grace of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ that we’ve had four years of prosperity and peace,” he said as he urged them to vote for Trump.
Reporter Paighten Harkins contributed to this article.
I love Israel. I love the nation, the land, the history, and generally the people. Sadly, many Jews have come to America and have strayed from their faith. But many have also returned home and found it again. Israel means “wrestles with God.” One thing is certain for me, God has a covenant with Israel and although it may seem impossible, He will honor that covenant.
I grew up in a city with many Jewish people. I also work with many in my current profession. Even my Jewish friends who are not religious at all, like me, seem to believe that Israel is special, that it has a unique and unparalleled place in history, and that there is a Spirit there that is palpable.
I can tell you from my own experience, that the Jews are a persecuted people. They are hated by many people and many nations. It was common for the mostly Jewish high school basketball team in my county, for example, to have bagels thrown at them while shooting free throws and at other times during the game, whether on their home court or on ours. And I mean 100s of them, all at once. Along with cream cheese containers, while screaming racial obscenities. It was the 80s of course, which meant it didn’t even make the news and no one ever got into trouble. We never had such issues erupt at our school when the visiting teams were all black. These amazing Jewish students never retaliated. They were accustomed to such treatment sadly. As for the Jewish kids in our own school, they too were incredibly gracious and forgiving during such occurrences. I’m amazed and ashamed in looking back, at the actions of our student body.
In the 90s I traveled to Lebanon. When I realized how close I was to Israel I decided to go into a travel agency and inquire about the best way to get there. When I inquired, the travel agent became immediately frazzled. She said, “We do not have service to that place.” I pressed, “But it’s so close, how do I get there?” She pushed a button behind the counter and several soldiers walked in with their fingers casually next to the triggers of their automatic weapons. When I told them I wanted to go to Israel, they nicely shushed me and said, “Please we do not speak of the neighbors to the South.” They must have liked me as they were very polite and I assume saw me as a young and naive American. “Can I just walk or take a bus there?” I asked. They chuckled and replied “no” not unless I wanted to get killed by Hezbollah.
I was so astonished that I was literally within a few miles of Israel and not only could I not get there, but I couldn’t even say the word Israel! And this was in a nation that seemed at the time, so incredibly civil, with a huge Christian population. Most of my Lebanese friends were Christian and even many of them naturally disliked Israel, even while “loving” Jesus. Lebanon was at the time a very Western nation (still is in many ways), boasted as the Switzerland of the Middle East because of its international banking and business, coupled with beautiful Mediterranean beaches and its incredible mountains close by.
Sadly I could not get into Israel on that trip. The next time I found myself in the Middle East I was more deliberate. I took a flight from UAE into Jordan (there were no direct flights at the time from UAE into Israel — that was against their laws) and traveled to the border in Amman. We stood in line with an American Christian missionary serving in Syria and he coached us on what to tell the Israeli border patrol. He told us to make sure to ask them nicely to NOT stamp our passports or we may not be able to return to other Middle Eastern nations. If Syria for example, sees that your passport has a stamp showing that you even once traveled to Israel, they will NOT let you in their country. The same for Lebanon and many other Middle Eastern countries.
Just as we were approaching the counter, the border agent quickly stamped the passport of our new Christian friend. The woman did not listen to him or hear him apparently as he asked her not to. The man broke down into tears. He had been serving a mission in Syria for some time and was scheduled to stay much longer and now he was stuck. He could not go back to Syria and would have to go through a lot of trouble in going back to the US, getting a new passport and a new Visa. I was extremely careful after watching what happened to him.
My LDS friend in UAE, whose father was Iraqi and also a converted member of the LDS Church, did not especially like Israel and dared not travel there.
The Book of Mormon warns us gentiles to not hate or curse the Jews:
O ye gentiles, have ye remembered the Jews, mine ancient covenant people? Nay, but ye have cursed them, and have hated them, and have not sought to recover them. But behold, I will return all these things upon your own heads, for I the Lord hath not forgotten my people.
Those who have and believe in the Book of Mormon, of all people, should not despise the Jews but should seek rather to recover them.
As I spent a couple of days in Israel, I was overcome with the spirit I felt there. The water in the River Jordan spoke to me. The garden of Gethsemane was overwhelming. The Via Dolorosa. The amazing Old City. The Dead Sea. Somehow in my heart, I knew that the most important history of the world had its foundations there. I felt a strangely deep connection as if I had been there before.
One night we followed a rush of people heading somewhere in the Old City. They seemed to be running late. I saw Orthodox Jews with their young sons. It seemed to be a men-only meeting they were hastening to. Curious, I followed. It led me through a metal detector and into a well lit open-air place. It was the famous Wailing Wall. Hundreds of men, brothers it seemed, gathered to commemorate the day Moses came down from the mountain with the Law. Being in awe and naive, I was filming the whole thing. Then a man approached me with a kind smile on his face who said, “Shalom my brother.” I replied, “Hello!” He then, with all the kindness and meekness in the world, informed me that they don’t generally allow filming or pictures. His gentle rebuke was in no way unkind or awkward. As I put my camera away, he was kind to visit with me and ask me where I was from. He also took the time to tell me why all these men (brothers) were gathered. I marveled as I looked at all these men fellowshipping together. The feeling was very reverential but also celebratory and excited. People seemed to be delighted to see each other and to visit with one another. I had never felt or seen such a brotherhood in my life. It spoke to me. There was a power there. As an active LDS person, I was very humbled by this experience. It was clear to me that these people had something I didn’t. Or at least, they too had something that was sacred and unique, which I had not before supposed possible.
As the day of the Lord approaches, I think we will see more Jews convert to Christianity. I hope we do. I’ve been enjoying listening to one of my favorite songs sung in Hebrew by a Messianic Jew named Joshua Aaron. It’s truly inspiring. I include it here and hope you love it as much as I do.
The words of this song are found in the Old Testament and are words that have been sung by faithful Israelites for hundreds of years.
May God bless Israel. May we be counted worthy to be counted among them. I worry that the Lord’s words will be fulfilled that all these things will be returned upon our own heads, for I the Lord hath not forgotten my people. What does that mean? Here’s a related scripture that is worth pondering.
Behold, I say unto you that the house of Israel was compared unto an olive tree by the spirit of the Lord which was in our father. And behold, are we not broken off from the house of Israel? And are we not a branch of the house of Israel? And now the thing which our father meaneth concerning the grafting in of the natural branches through the fullness of the gentiles is that in the latter days, when our seed shall have dwindled in unbelief — yea, for the space of many years and many generations after the Messiah shall be manifested in body unto the children of men — then shall the fullness of the gospel of the Messiah come unto the gentiles, and from the gentiles unto the remnant of our seed. And at that day shall the remnant of our seed know that they are of the house of Israel and that they are the covenant people of the Lord. And then shall they know and come to the knowledge of their forefathers, and also to the knowledge of the gospel of their Redeemer, which was ministered unto their fathers by him. Wherefore, they shall come to the knowledge of their Redeemer and the very points of his doctrine, that they may know how to come unto him and be saved. And then at that day, will they not rejoice and give praise unto their everlasting God, their rock, and their salvation? Yea, at that day, will they not receive strength and nourishment from the true vine? Yea, will they not come unto the true fold of God? Behold, I say unto you, yea, they shall be numbered again among the house of Israel; they shall be grafted in, being a natural branch of the olive tree, into the true olive tree; and this is what our father meaneth. And he meaneth that it will not come to pass until after they are scattered by the gentiles. And he meaneth that it shall come by way of the gentiles, that the Lord may shew his power unto the gentiles for the very cause that he shall be rejected of the Jews, or of the house of Israel. Wherefore, our father hath not spoken of our seed alone, but also of all the house of Israel, pointing to the covenant which should be fulfilled in the latter days, which covenant the Lord made to our father Abraham, saying, In thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.
What does it mean that “it shall come by way of the gentiles, that the Lord may shew his power unto the gentiles, for the very cause that he shall be rejected of the Jews?” Is it possible that it means that because we the gentiles (including if not directly referring to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and all Mormon denominations and all American and non-American Christian gentile people and nations) have rejected the Fulness of the Gospel (or are rejecting it), God will then show us by His power, that we, just like the Jews did, shall also stumble, look past the mark, and be cursed, for our unbelief? Thus having all these things returned upon our heads because we have forgotten God’s covenant with Israel and have mocked His people rather than seeking to recover them?
Can we say we have NOT rejected the Fulness of the Gospel? Can we say we are better than the Jews who have not yet come unto Christ? What is this fulness anyway?
Now, this, Moses plainly taught to the children of Israel in the wilderness, and sought diligently to sanctify his people that they might behold the face of God,but they hardened their hearts and could not endure his presence. Therefore, the Lord, in his wrath (for his anger was kindled against them) swore that they should not enter into his rest — which rest is the fullness of his glory — while in the wilderness. Therefore, he took Moses out of their midst, and the Holy Priesthood also. And the lesser priesthood continued, which priesthood holds the key of the ministering of angels, and the preparatory gospel, which gospel is the gospel of repentance, and of baptism, and the remission of sins, and the law of carnal commandments, which the Lord in his wrath caused to continue with the house of Aaron, among the children of Israel, until John, whom God raised up, being filled with the holy ghost from his mother’s womb. For he was baptized while he was yet in his childhood, and was ordained by the angel of God at the time he was eight days old unto this power: to overthrow the kingdom of the Jews, and to make straight the way of the Lord before the face of his people, to prepare them for the coming of the Lord, in whose hand is given all power.
Could it not also be said that Joseph, like Moses, also sought to sanctify his people that they might behold the face of God? Is it possible that the early saints hardened their hearts and thus could not endure His presence? Whatever one chooses to believe, the result of whatever the early Nauvoo saints received or did, was Joseph and Hyrum being taken from their midst.
The only way to demonstrate that we have received His Fullness and are thus redeemed by Him, is to do as the Lord proclaims in the Book of Ether:
And when he had said these words, behold, the Lord shewed himself unto him and said, Because thou knowest these things, ye are redeemed from the Fall.Therefore, ye are brought back into my presence; therefore I shew myself unto you. Behold, I am he who was prepared from the foundation of the world to redeem my people. Behold, I am Jesus Christ. I am the Father and the Son. In me shall all mankind have life; and that eternally, even they who shall believe on my name. And they shall become my sons and my daughters. And to none of those now living whom I created have I appeared, for none have believed in me as thou hast. Seest thou that ye are created after mine own image? Yea, even all men were created in the beginning after mine own image. Behold, this body which ye now behold is the body of my spirit. And man have I created after the body of my spirit. And even as I appear unto thee to be in the spirit will I appear unto my people in the flesh.
We don’t speak much anymore of this kind of thing. In fact, sadly some of today’s Church leaders warn against teaching this doctrine of Calling and Election or “Redemption” calling it a trick of the devil. Yet, for Joseph, like for Moses, this teaching was the very purpose of the Gospel being restored:
“After a person has faith in Christ, repents of his sins, is baptized for the remission of his sins, and receives the Holy Ghost (by the laying on of hands), which is the first Comforter, then let him continue to humble himself before God, hungering and thirsting after righteousness and living by every word of God. The Lord will soon say unto him, ‘Son, thou shalt be exalted.’ When the Lord has thoroughly proved him and finds that the man is determined to serve him at all hazards, then the man will find his calling and election made sure, then it will be his privilege to receive the other Comforter, which the Lord hath promised the Saints, as is recorded in the testimony of St. John [KJV], in the 14th chapter, from the 12th to the 27th verses” (TPJS, 150; WJS, 5; seeJohn 9:7–9). “I’ve not said much about Calling and Election. I think focusing on that topic is a mistake. It will take care of itself if you can get the Second Comforter.”1 Joseph Smith said: “1st key: Knowledge is the power of salvation. 2nd key: Make your calling and election sure. 3rd key: It is one thing to be on the mount and hear the excellent voice, etc., and another to hear the voice declare to you, You have a part and lot in that kingdom.”2 Nephi speaks again with the Father’s words: Wherefore, if ye shall press forward, feasting upon the word of Christ, and endure to the end, behold, thus saith the Father: Ye shall have eternal life (2 Nephi 13:4). This is the purpose of receiving the Second Comforter. Christ’s objective, as a tutor, is to bring His followers to the Father. It is the voice of the Father which finally declares to His children they are assured Eternal life.3 When the Lord promises a blessing, it is always tied to faithfulness and obedience.4 Even when promises are unconditional, such as in having one’s calling and election made sure, years of faithfulness precede the promise. The promise is premised on the continuation of faithfulness. And no one is relieved of the necessity of enduring to the end, even when their calling and election is made sure.5 The highest form of acceptance and redemption is to have one’s calling and election made sure, to be washed and cleansed from sin every whit.6
I believe and I testify that we become Israel after we wrestle with God and work out our salvation through the merits of Christ. We will know we are His when He shows Himself unto us and says “Son (or daughter), thou shalt be exalted.” We then are redeemed from the Fall and have accepted the Fulness of His Gospel. Until then, we are damned and are stuck here in this Telestial Kingdom, worlds without number.
The miracle of the recent treaties between certain Middle Eastern countries and Israel is both unbelievable and a sign that God is moving His Hand upon Israel. He always keeps His Promises.
BYU American Heritage icon Frank Fox, spoke out recently against the President of the United States and made the bold claim that he would “bet his eternal salvation” that the Brethren were not quietly supporting President Trump, as Mike Pence is alleged to have said recently in Arizona.
Mr. Fox begins his letter by reminding readers of his bonafides and noting that he’s worked directly with the First Presidency on many important matters over the years. Fox sets the stage so as to say that “he would know,” if the Brethren were voting for and supporting President Trump or not. And he’s so confident that they’re not, that he’s willing to wager his soul on the question.
One final comment. It was recently reported that Vice President Pence, in visiting Arizona, intimated that the General Authorities of the LDS Church were quietly supporting the President. I will bet my eternal salvation against that. The values of patriotism, truthfulness, justice, honor, decency and respect for the law are deeply ingrained in LDS culture. Few church members in full possession of the facts would condone what I have described above. (My emphasis added)
IF this is true, the Brethren wouldn’t be the only prominent members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints “unable and unwilling” to support Trump. Jeff Flake, former Senator of Arizona, is so anti-Trump, that he’s joined a coalition of like-minded Republicans, whose sole focus is to make sure Biden beats Trump this November. Flake also voted against Conservative Justice Kavanaugh and threatened other political tricks to show his disdain for the President as he was leaving his senatorial seat.
Evan McMullin, failed presidential candidate in 2016, whose sole purpose in running for president, was with the hopes that LDS people all over (especially in Utah) would vote their “consciences” as the Brethren were signaling, and thus create a brokered convention, where the Republican Party would choose a candidate other than Trump to run against Hillary, is another die hard LDS never Trumper. The posturing was all pointing to Mitt Romney to save the election just like he “saved the Olympics” — after all, he was leading the charge against Trump, “the phony, the fraud, the film flam man,” as Romney openly name called him. This was his and McMullin’s and maybe the Church’s plan to get Romney in instead of Trump. Now it would seem that Romney’s only goal in the Senate today is to “protect the world from Trump.“ He made history as the only Republican Senator to vote to impeach and remove Trump from the Office of President and yesterday announced proudly that he had voted in Utah and NOT for Trump. This, despite Trump’s many endorsements and support of Romney over the decades.
Are we, as members of the Church, to believe that this anti-Trump sentiment also exists among the 15 top leaders of the Church and that they too will NOT be voting for President Trump? The Brethren do not ever signal that they disagree with Mitt Romney, Jeff Flake, Evan McMullin, Frank Fox and other LDS public figures. They’ve not said otherwise. Is it possible that these LDS political voices are simply a reflection of private conversations with LDS Church leaders? I sure hope not.
Let me tell you why I believe the Brethren and every member of the Church SHOULD be voting for President Trump this November. (Assuming we believe Gospel principles matter).
First of all, let’s establish one important reality: NOT voting for Trump, IS a vote for Biden.And a vote for Biden IS a vote for a long list of things that should offend freedom loving religious people of all faiths.
Liberal Supreme Court Justices
The abolishment of the Electoral College
The continued advancement of Transgender “laws”
The advancement of pedophilia
The continued legalization of drugs
More Federal regulations
Adding DC and Puerto Rico as States making it impossible for conservatives to win the Senate or the Presidency or the House.
Orwellian News Control (see Facebook and Twitter as 2 examples of many)
Using the IRS to punish conservatives (see what Obama did D’Souza and many others)
The end of Conservatism as we know it
Closed down economies for “pandemics”
Closing down Churches for our “public safety”
Defunding the military
Green New Deal
The destruction of our economy
The punishment of anyone not complying or supporting
And much more…
Now, for any who believe my list is exaggerated, I would cite you to research each of the topics listed above. It’s all out there. From liberal media outlets such as Netflix who are in legal and criminal jeopardy for their movie “Cuties” that glamorizes child sexuality — to today’s news that Joe Biden will appoint a commission to “review the Supreme Court’s number of seats” — to Facebook and Twitter being subpoenaed for playing news gods. This list IS what today’s Liberal leftists are pushing for.
If the Brethren are in fact in favor of anyone but Trump, as Professor Fox suggests in his open letter, and are voting accordingly, then here is my open letter to them:
You have spent your entire lives teaching us members of the Church to uphold and sustain righteousness and to discern between truth and error. You have preached against such evils as abortion and homosexuality and have spent millions of tithing dollars in the fight against gay marriage. And we finally have a President who is nominating conservative Supreme Court Justices and hundreds of other conservative Federal Judges across this nation, thus setting the stage to overturn Roe v. Wade, gay marriage, Obamacare, and who knows, maybe even Federal Income tax AND YOUR consciences won’t let you support the man responsible for all this? With all due respect, what on earth are you thinking?
You who call yourselves Prophets and Apostles should be able to see that good is coming from President Trump’s presidency.
Have you forgotten Israel? Has Israel ever had a better ally than President Trump? Look at the peace he and his administration are negotiating in the Middle East! Is this of no value? This is Biblically historic! Obama, Biden, Bushes, Clinton and Hillary did the opposite in the Middle East. They promoted war and desolation. Trump should be given a dozen Nobel Peace prizes for what he’s doing. Instead, he’s given no credit and he’s treated like a buffoon. Under Hillary and Biden and Obama, we got Benghazi. Which, once they unitedly decided to let a US Ambassador and several other American soldiers die, they then fabricated a lie that the attack on the US Embassy in Libya was caused by a video that offended Islam. They are liars and they are murderers. One of my best and dearest childhood friends was killed in Afghanistan. How many more souls will be lost fighting wars, that if they ever had a moral foundation, are immediately politicized by traitors and cowards — most often Democrat politicians and the liberal media. NO President has done more in the last 20 years than President Trump in bringing soldiers home from unending global wars. We should be praising God for that.
Has anyone done more than Trump to uphold the rule of law by nominating more than 200 Federal Judges? Numerous prominent people have argued that President Trump’s actions to appoint conservative Judges throughout the nation will positively impact and reshape our country in ways impossible until now for issues such as gun control, voting rights, abortion, immigration, the environment, etc. Do you no longer believe such issues are important?
Is it true, as it is for Romney and Flake and others that somehow Trump’s personality or his morality offends you too deeply and won’t let you vote for him?
And yet, let’s talk about morality. Senators Flake and Romney, who were so offended by the weak accusations of Christine Ford, against Justice Kavanaugh — 30 years ago — where she “thinks,” she “remembers” the said accused being at a party where bad things were happening. She “thinks” he was there. You holier than thou fools who joined the chorus of idiots screaming that “every woman should be believed!” Jeff, who I know from playing Church ball 30 years ago, you looked so concerned as those women accosted you in the elevator. Their voices invoked deep and solemn, contemplative emotion that YES, you needed to do something. So, you convicted a man, his family, his character — on the foundation of the hearsay testimony of a democratic activist that “thought” she may have seen Kavanaugh at a party 30 years ago!? Are you truly so self-righteous and so foolish? Brethren, did you support Senator Flake in his display of sanctimony? Did you call him to offer your support for his courage?
And yet now, Mr. Flake, you openly endorse Joe Biden, who is being accused by at least one very credible source, of being raped while she was an intern for him in D.C. Unlike, Dr. Ford’s testimony, her’s is corroborated by those she reported the incident to WHEN IT HAPPENED. And she told many witnesses. She wasn’t drunk at some party, Mr. Flake and Senator Romney (and the Brethren, if you agree with them), she was walking the halls of Congress as a sweet and naive young volunteer when she alleges that Joe Biden forced her against a wall, forced himself on her, and pinning her there, “fingered her” and said he wanted to “F— “ her. For a list of many other credible X rated accusations against Biden from other victims, you can read here.
It is worth noting that NONE of these victims are Trump supporters. They deserve to be believed and be heard and be given the same level of concern that you Jeff Flake and you Mitt Romney GAVE Dr. Ford. Not believing Tara Reed and others, after what you did to Justice Kavanaugh, is an utter disgrace.
Now Brethren, let’s talk about another issue that should offend your consciences. And I begin with a question: Did you support or instruct Senator Romney to vote to remove our President from Office? If so, shame on you. Especially given now that we have the facts.
Fact one, President Trump simply asked the new president of Ukraine to look into the many allegations of corruption related to American political figures such as Joe Biden, who admitted on video that he forced Ukraine to fire a prosecutor investigating his son Hunter Biden, or he would make sure Ukraine did not get 1 Billion Dollars in aid that had been promised. Fact two, the prosecutor WAS fired and their case against Hunter and other felons was dropped. Fact three, it turns out now we KNOW, that the “Big Guy” (aka Joe Biden) had reason to be concerned about this investigation because the money trail went up to him. Fact four, this is only the beginning. 30,000 or more pictures of crack pipes and child porn are on Hunter’s computer and witnesses are already testifying against Joe and Hunter for the damning evidence on the device confirming illegal activities including money laundering and who knows what else. Fact five, Joe Biden is a truly compromised man. He sold his office and President Obama’s Office to the highest bidders. Does this not offend you? What else will we discover Mitt, about Hunter and Joe? Are you concerned about your own son who also makes money in the Ukrainian Energy sector? Or your top adviser, Joseph Black, who served alongside Hunter Biden on the Board of Burisma? (See here)
It appears that Romney, Kerry, Biden, McCain, Pelosi, Clinton, Mueller and Schiff all have ties to Ukrainian firms. VP Biden bragged on camera that he was able to force the former Ukraine President to fire a prosecutor who was investigating his son, Hunter, by threatening to withhold $1 BILLION in US loans from Ukraine – all with approval from Obama!
It’s also alleged, “Ghislaine Maxwell’s father, Robert, a close friend of Jeffrey Epstein, helped Mitt Romney build his fortune at Bain…” (Source) This ought to give anyone concern given what we know about Maxwell and Epstein.
Mitt, is your disdain for Trump due to the fact that he has dirt on you too? Are you worried that Trump will uncover something in Ukraine that incriminates your family? Your relationship with Joe and Hunter Biden and Jeffrey Epstein?
Brethren, you of all people, should want darkness to come to light as it pertains to all these vital moral and ethical issues. And now, you know for a fact, that Senator Mitt Romney was wrong in his vote to remove our President from Office. Senator Romney should be apologizing right now for having cast his vote and should be repenting of his actions by asking President Trump for forgiveness and acknowledging his error and foolishness before the world. Instead, Romney is doubling down. Do you agree with him?
Do you quietly sustain Senator Romney? Are you secretly voting for Joe Biden or are you writing in some other candidate to assuage your consciences? If yes, I would sure like to know. Just in case your tenures in office have caused you to forget what real LDS conservatives think and feel, let me help you.
We LDS conservatives still revere leaders like President Ezra Taft Benson. He understood the threats we now see taking over our government. We love our country and recognize the current threat and reality that our nation and our freedoms are hanging in the balance. Benson, like Captain Moroni, would take Black Lives Matter at their word, that they are avowed and trained Marxists, and he sure AS HELL would NOT march with them as did Mitt Romney. Brethren, are you not concerned about the message that Church member Mitt Romney’s sympathy for a violent Marxist group sends? President Benson would NOT sustain Senator Romney and like the current Pope who disavows Joe Biden as a Catholic, I guarantee you that President Benson would disavow Romney as a member of the Church and call him an enemy of the State.
Brethren, are you comfortable with the recent statement from the Kremlin that endorses Joe Biden and the Democrat Party?
The Democratic Party, he said, is “traditionally closer to liberal values, it is close to the ideas of social democracy,” and these positions could help build contacts with Russia. Mr. Putin noted that he was for 18 years a member of the Soviet Communist Party. “Ever since, I have liked many of the leftist values,” he said.
Do you really not think it’s important to teach members in a way that makes it more clear as to what form of government we should sustain? You certainly made it clear how you felt about Prop 8. Why so silent today when the stakes are so high? Do you really think we will ever establish Zion if we abandon our love of freedom and knowledge of good government?
Would President Benson NOT vote for Trump, knowing the alternative is the continued road to Socialism and Communism? I think President Benson would be ashamed of Brother Romney and Brother Flake and Brother McMullin and anyone else who doesn’t vote for the obvious less evil candidate we have to choose from, including any of you Leaders of the Church.
Brethren, we conservative members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, join the rest of the country in seeing Mitt Romney as a self-righteous, pompous, snake. He epitomizes hypocrisy. He makes our Church look bad. Just like Harry Reed, Mitt Romney puts the Church in a very bad light. And as a friendly bit of advice, I think many members are starting to wonder if Flake, Romney, McMullin, and even Reed, may actually be an extension of you and your beliefs.
I personally know the daughter of a prominent general authority who most people know was a Democrat. This woman openly supports Black Lives Matter and is voting for Joe Biden, as an active and devout LDS member. She’s one of many LDS people I now see who think it’s “OK” to support such groups, who OPENLY teach things CONTRARY to what THE CHURCH SAYS IT BELIEVES.
I find it ironic that if I associate with a group that you see as a wrongful association, i.e. I choose to read a book that focuses on Christ (The Second Comforter), you threatened my Church membership, BUT you don’t seem to have any issue with members OPENLY supporting and AFFILIATING with Communist, Marxist, Transgenders inciting violence, murder, and mayhem.
And recently President Nelson, you made a statement in General Conference that I think reinforces my concern. You said,
“I grieve that our Black brothers and sisters the world over are enduring the pains of racism and prejudice. Today I call upon our members everywhere to lead out in abandoning attitudes and actions of prejudice. I plead with you to promote respect for all of God’s children.”
Such a statement may cause members to wonder if you too would have marched with Mitt Romney in a #BLM parade. At a minimum, this statement shows you, as the leader of our Church, adding credibility to the idea that there is systemic racism in our country. If we conservative LDS people are being honest, this feels very much like what the Church has done on all major political issues of late — i.e. jump on the bandwagon. If you truly believe that our nation suffers from systemic racism, then you, like Joe Biden, have perhaps been in office too long.
Most of us LOVE our country. We LOVE its people — of all colors! WE don’t think America is racist! And most of us conservative members LOVE President Trump! Despite any moral failings he has, HE has done more to uphold our Freedoms and our Constitution than any of you or any other President in the last 40 years. YOU should sustain him. YOU should be more supportive. And it should concern YOU that so many LDS people are supporting Biden… I think, following your examples.
Are we to believe that you also side with Lebron James? Stephen Colbert? Madonna? The cast of the West Wing? Oprah Winfrey and Ellen? The NBA and NFL players who last I checked are morally bankrupt? Are you joining hands with Hollywood? It sure feels like it. Google? Facebook? Twitter? Netflix? Amazon? Do you not see that these are the enemies of America and of Religion? As a side note — look at what #BLM is doing to professional sports. The LDS Church risks the same outcome by jumping on this bandwagon. The bandwagon of Babylon.
President Nelson, your words play into a false narrative that incites division and violence. Can you not see that? You apparently wanted to be on record siding with the progressives. The same progressives who are literally destroying our states and our cities.
The contrast and the choice are clear. That form of government leads to cities being overtaken by anarchists who kill and destroy. It leads to law enforcement being disregarded and/or assaulted and killed. It leads to racism ironically. Anger towards a white privilege that doesn’t exist. All these cities And states are run by Biden-supporting leaders. President Nelson, do you support this kind of leadership? Your words and your silence both seem to indicate it. Flake and Romney and Fox, do you also believe that the Democratic leadership that is now on display, aligns with LDS Gospel principles? No rule of law? Anarchy? Soft on crime? Two tiered justice? Ballot tampering and election fraud? Statues destroyed? Destruction of life and property? Allowing graffiti everywhere? Allowing cars to be set on fire? Businesses and homes to be burned down? Allowing (encouraging) murder? Homeless people everywhere? Defecating and doing drugs in the streets?
Honestly I cannot say it any other way and I’m not trying to be offensive, but, what in the hell is wrong with you Frank Fox?
How about JUST the issue of abortion alone! Biden and his Judges WILL lead to many many more abortions. They not only admit it — they celebrate it! Look at the liberal states in our country. They see the destruction of innocent human life as a civil rights issue, even partial birth abortion. Trump and Pence proudly fright against it. They support LIFE. They protect children. THE MOST VULNERABLE. That issue alone should NOT allow you to vote for Biden or any pro-abortion candidate. Your support of Biden, is a vote for the murder of children. Shame on you Frank Fox. May God damn your efforts to stop a candidate and his running mate from being elected. You expose yourself as a fraud and a fool. You are no conservative, that’s for sure.
I call on you Brethren, to OPENLY avow or disavow Professor Frank Fox’s statement that YOU do NOT support our President. He’s wagering his salvation on it. The least you can do is set the record straight. If it’s true, I want to know. If he’s right and you hate our President as much as he does and if you are quietly supporting Joe Biden over Donald Trump, I will resign from this Church today and will renounce you as blind fools and false prophets. That’s a promise.
The likes of Mitt Romney and Jeff Flake undoubtedly view themselves as the Elders who are meant to save the Constitution hanging by a thread. And yet, surprisingly to many observers, these Constitution Savers now endorse Joe Biden, who vows to take our Nation further down the road of Socialism. It’s as if Flake and Romney and many other so-called conservatives (Colin Powell, Tom Ridge, Bushes, Kasich, McCains, Dwayne Johnson, etc.) are so fixated on the current president’s personality, that abortion, gay marriage, taxes, and freedom all take a back seat. Joe Biden, he’s our man! Even if he is the exact opposite of conservatism, at least he’s not Trump. Oh and by the way, we’re going to save the Constitution, because we have the Priesthood.
The White Horse Prophecy is not completely verifiable although it’s attributed to Joseph Smith by Edwin Rushton in the year 1900. He was “said” to have made this prophecy in 1843. The substance, which is embellished at each telling of it, of the Prophecy, is:
In 1855, Brigham Young reportedly wrote that “when the Constitution of the United States hangs, as it were, upon a single thread, they will have to call for the ‘Mormon’ Elders to save it from utter destruction; and they will step forth and do it.”
In 1858, Orson Hyde, another contemporary of Smith, wrote that Smith believed “the time would come when the Constitution and the country would be in danger of an overthrow; and… if the Constitution be saved at all, it will be by the elders of [the LDS] Church.”
In 1922, the LDS Church’s fifth presiding bishop, Charles W. Nibley, stated that “the day would come when there would be so much of disorder, of secret combinations taking the law into their own hands, tramping upon Constitutional rights and the liberties of the people, that the Constitution would hang as by a thread. Yes, but it will still hang, and there will be enough of good people, many who may not belong to our Church at all, people who have respect for law and for order, and for Constitutional rights, who will rally around with us and save the Constitution.”
In 1928, the LDS apostleMelvin J. Ballard remarked that “the prophet Joseph Smith said the time will come when, through secret organizations taking the law into their own hands… the Constitution of the United States would be so torn and rent asunder, and life and property and peace and security would be held of so little value, that the Constitution would, as it were, hang by a thread. This Constitution will be preserved, but it will be preserved very largely in consequence of what the Lord has revealed and what [the Mormons], through listening to the Lord and being obedient, will help to bring about, to stabilize and give permanency and effect to the Constitution itself. That also is our mission.”
In 1942, J. Reuben Clark, an LDS apostle and a member of the church’s First Presidency, said that “You and I have heard all our lives that the time may come when the Constitution may hang by a thread…. I do know that whether it shall live or die is now in the balance.” On the Constitution, Clark went on to cite its “free institutions,” separation of powers, and the Bill of Rights. He added that “if we are to live as a Church, and progress, and have the right to worship… we must have the great guarantees that are set up by our Constitution.”
In a 1986 Brigham Young University speech, LDS president Ezra Taft Benson stated, “I have faith that the Constitution will be saved as prophesied by Joseph Smith. But it will not be saved in Washington. It will be saved by the citizens of this nation who love and cherish freedom. It will be saved by enlightened members of this Church – men and women who will subscribe to and abide by the principles of the Constitution.”
In 2010, Elder Dallin H. Oaks spoke at a Constitution Day Celebration and warned about the importance of preserving the US Constitution. To that end, he claimed that “all citizens—whatever their religious or philosophical persuasion” should maintain several responsibilities regarding the Constitution: understand it, support the law, practice civic virtue, maintain civility in political discourse, and promote patriotism.
The greatest irony of all? It just may be that Mormon Elder Harry Reid ends up saving the Constitution hanging by a thread. How so, you ask? Because in 2013, Mormon Senator Harry Reid led the charge to change the rules from a 60 vote majority rule to a 51 vote majority rule for Federal Judicial appointments. This was intended, it is assumed, to help Obama and other Democrats get their Federal Court Nominees through when the seats in the Senate are so very close (i.e. upend built-in checks and balances). This has led to President Trump getting 3 Justices on the Bench (including Amy Barrett) and potentially 2-3 more in the next 4 years if he is re-elected. Assuming they are all true conservatives (not likely but maybe), this ALONE could help save the fragile Constitution now hanging by a thread for a bit longer.
In the meantime, Elder Harry Reid, not Mitt Romney or Jeff Flake, may have saved the Constitution. And Mitt and Jeff and other great Mormons are voting in favor of abortion and Black Lives Matter and Antifa instead of riding on White Horses.
A friend of mine sent me a link to The Chosen a year or so ago. We watched the first and only season and instantly fell in love with it. It’s a very well done series about the Savior’s ministry and although it takes quite a bit of artistic license in its telling of the story, it’s done so very well and is incredibly uplifting.
I have since shared the link with many friends and have contributed to the producer’s efforts to raise money for Season 2. For Season 1, they raised over $10M. More than any other crowdfunded film project in GoFundMe history. They hope to do 8 or more seasons and will need about $10M per season. I highly recommend The Chosen to anyone who has yet to see it. You can click on the link below to watch the first episode and season for free:
I think the reason The Chosen has been such a huge success is because of how real the characters are made to feel. Jesus, for example, says things like, “Hey good to see you boys!” He belly laughs and smiles ear to ear on more than one occasion. He feels real. Authentic. Relatable. Approachable. Human, although God-like. He speaks and acts like you might imagine a real person in real life would, even if the Son of God.
Of course, the actors and director know full well, they are not perfectly depicting the characters they are trying to portray, but without question, they have brought a tremendous amount of real-life personality to these seminal figures. Capturing and portraying authenticity is no easy task in the world of cinema, especially when depicting the Savior and other old world prophets.
Authenticity in real life is an even more refreshing thing to witness. Most people want real. Especially from the preachers of religion. Those who are stiff and scripted and speak fancifully in a way that is not relatable may indeed be loved and may even be revered, but they are not going to be very effective, in my opinion. They can control meetings and membership and tempo and curriculum and hierarchy, but they will not truly convert souls unto Christ. Not when approaching the effort in a superficial, scripted way. And certainly not when being dishonest or unwilling to address people’s real-life concerns and questions.
The news of how the Brethren receive revelation may be disappointing for those who still believe they “see the Lord” (as did Joseph) or hear His Voice. Their process is the same as for anyone trying to be inspired but clearly is NOT prophetic by the standards of Scripture. Yet, somehow their way is viewed as better than our own.
Elder Rasband teases in this particular Face to Face that he was grateful that a “couple of his words” made it into the final cut and that when they had all written their drafts, they gave them to the Prophet for him to put it all together. In other words, although all 15 men are prophets, seers, and revelators–the newer the prophet you are, the less important and less respected and less inspired you are by your peers (and possibly by the membership too). None of it feels “genuine” or authentic. It feels mechanical and scripted. I.e. NOT prophetic.
As I tuned in I was very surprised to see that the Church filmed this episode of Face to Face on their Goshen, Utah film set. Apparently, they had planned on filming the event from the Sacred Grove in upstate New York but changed their plans officially on August 10, 2020.
It would be at about that same time that the filmmakers and supporters of The Chosen were fasting and praying to find a location where they could film their second season. And It was at about this same time that the Church agreed to let them “use” the Goshen location. (I don’t know if it’s being donated or rented out). The director of The Chosen made the announcement of the new film location on August 19th, only 9 days after the Church announced its change of venue. Surely, negotiations to use the Goshen location would have been ongoing for weeks if not months before officially securing it. The Chosen view the location as a miracle from God and an answer to their prayers.
But, one may ask, why did the Church change venues at the last minute for its Face to Face to the new set of Season 2 for The Chosen? Why Goshen? I don’t know the answer but, I find it strange that the Church would just happen to move their big event to a location it had just rented out to the amazingly popular Christian series as if wanting to associate itself with the success of the production. The timing is suspect at best and the location for this type of event I believe is unprecedented. It feels very much like the Church is trying to benefit from the popularity of The Chosen, which for me, is a very superficial and shallow thing to do. The least they can do is FUND several seasons! At least then, they can say they helped the cause, instead of surreptitiously trying to promote themselves.
In watching the Face to Face with Elder Rasband, I was struck at how unauthentic it all was. The entire event is supposed to be homey. I think it’s meant to be a modern-day “fireside chat with one of the 15 prophets.” In-person and up close are meant to carry the day. Not scripted and stiff, and evasive.
In this event, every question from the LDS youth of the world is handpicked and responses are all planned in advance. The setting feels extremely stiff with all of the handpicked audience sitting 6 feet apart and all donning the politically correct masks, even though outside on a desert film set. The message seems to be all about exactness. Exactly 6 feet apart. Exactly obedient. Exactly scripted. Exactly in line with the Men who lead the Church.
The first two questions to Elder Rasband are truth claims questions. One from a young Latter-day Saint man named Harry who is considering leaving the Church. Elder and Sister Rasband’s response is effectively, “Don’t you dare leave! If you do, your life will be ruined!” They then turn the audience to a film about a young man who was going to commit suicide, because he was not a member of the Church. The story was nice enough, but I had to wonder how Harry must have felt. “If you leave Harry, your life will be meaningless and you too will likely want to commit suicide. It’s the Church or it’s eternal Misery!”
What people like Harry and Harriet (the other truth claims questioner) want, is someone to be real with them. In my opinion, they just want authenticity. They crave real answers to real questions. And what they get is the inauthenticity of a geriatric version of High School Musical. Lots of theatrics and nice music. So much “niceness” and so many smiles, but no real answers.
Here a just a few of the comments online from those who sympathize with Harry and Harriet:
Why do we need to shelf these items? If these are truly men of god, why can’t they answer the questions? Instead they dodge it and say “just shelf it” well I’ve shelfed it for 36 years and my shelf is broken because of the weight.
Same here. They can’t answer the questions, because if they do, they admit to being wrong.
The thing is……many of us HAVE opened up and sought truth from the Holy Ghost when the leaders of the church were unwilling or unable to provide it. The truths we have found from the Lord speaking through his spirit are that the church and its leaders are not what they claim to be. While this is inconvenient for the church and its truth claims, what we have learned is, nonetheless, true. There is no need to shelve these items. The Lord will answer your prayer. The truth, the knowledge, the answers may not be what you WANT them to be, they may not affirm what you have believed your entire life, but they are real. I am so glad that the Lord has made me aware of this and that I have found a deeper, richer spiritual experience in a different church.
The music felt a little American Idol for me.
Really disappointing to hear people come with genuine questions and then hear a leader say “don’t worry about it, just follow my Twitter”
The thing that got me was hearing elder and sister Rasband respond to a question from a member wondering if they should resign from the church with a video about an individual struggling with mental illness and suicide…. How are those related exactly?
It is so sad how they are given the opportunity to say the right thing and they totally blow. Their responses to concerns were completely irrelevant. Someone struggling with Truth Claims of the church needs answers!
I was disappointed that when a person mentions struggling in the faith over doctrine or history that the issues are never explored. Why is this so? It would seem only natural to want to know what people struggle with in order to shepherd them in the faith. I personally have struggled with discrepancies between the Book of Abraham text and what Egyptologists report from scholarly translation of the fragments in the possession of the church. Nobody in the church seems willing to talk about this or my concerns with the various versions of the Joseph Smith story..
You’re not alone. Anyone who is observant and objective will recognize that the church is dodging the issues. At the very least…the very LEAST…Rasband could have directed the questioner to the Gospel Topics Essays that address these issues on the church’s own website!! But he couldn’t even bring himself to do that. And why?? Because he is aware that many people have left the church precisely BECAUSE of what they learn from the Gospel Topics Essays. Talk about your dereliction of duty!
I really do not like that they screened and prepared the questions and “answers” in this meeting. It feels very staged. I would have liked to have seen honest real answers off the cuff. The emotional manipulation here is intense for those still inside the church bubble. Take one foot out of it and you can see what this really is. Sadly, many never will for fear of losing family and friends, and that’s a legitimate fear. Especially if you live in Utah.
Sadly, many who struggle, see these Face to Faces with “the Prophets” as shallow and unhelpful. The above questions and comments are sincere and worthy of consideration. Why can’t these men be more relatable? Approachable? Off the cuff? Real? I’d invite you to watch the Face to Face for yourself if you haven’t already.
There’s a story that Sister Rasband shares where she was hit by a car as a little girl because she did not listen to the Spirit warning her. Elder Rasband thanked her (no fewer than 1,000 thank you’s in this F2F) and told her while getting choked up that “Their family’s faith has been built on her telling this story so many times over the years.” I’m sorry but the exchanges between Elder and Sister Rasband seem very unnatural. You can watch and decide for yourself.
I also do not like that Elder Rasband stops midway through and asks the audience to #hashtag the event and to “follow the prophet” on social media. Reminds me of the scene in the Truman Show where out of the blue, Truman’s wife takes a moment to thank the Show’s sponsors:
So much advertising. So many hushed tones. So much superficial reverence. So many thank you’s. There’s even a “scene” where Elder Rasband stops the tape and reinforces that HE and HIS WIFE KNOW the SAVIOR! This is their gift! According to him, it’s other people’s gift to believe on their testimony. Sure seemed like Elder Rasband was checking off a box to reinforce to the audience his assignment to be a “special witness.”
Another interesting moment is when Sister Rasband refers to “Anti-Church literature.” I always knew this as “Anti-Mormon” literature, but I assume that Sister Rasband is trying very hard to not use the word “Mormon” in any way, in accordance with the current prophet’s teachings. A little awkward. I wonder if the Church will buy websites such as: “memberofthechurchofjesuschirstoflatterdaysaintsandgay.com so as to be exactly obedient to President Nelson’s teachings.
All in all, the lack of authenticity carried the day. Now, having said that, there are incredibly talented people who sing and there are people there who are amazingly sincere, who surely God loves and watches over. But, Mormonism has sadly become something that appropriately feels very staged and scripted. It belongs on a movie set. They would do well to learn that real, raw, and authentic are always better than staged, scripted, and phony. They need to learn from The Chosen, rather than trying to hijack their spotlight. Again, the Church would do well to give The Chosen millions of dollars. It would be a far better investment than in the City Creek Mall or in the Book of Mormon Musical (aka Hale Theater), which is a very “anti-Church” production.