Nothing is Random

September 10, 1973 – Denver Snuffer was baptized and became a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

October 6, 1979 – The LDS Church, with no vote from its members, eliminated the office of the Presiding Patriarch. Eldred G. Smith, direct grandson of Hyrum Smith, was made emeritus. He had been equal in authority to the First Presidency and was responsible for ordaining the Church’s new “prophets” when they were called. It’s understood that the release was very upsetting to him and many others.

April 4, 2013 – Eldred G. Smith died at age 106. He was the last presiding patriarch of the LDS Church. He died on a Thursday night heading into General Conference weekend.

September 9, 2013 – Russell Nelson turned 89. Nelson was the President of the Strengthening the Church Members Committee and had been insisting that Denver Snuffer be excommunicated for having written a book called Passing the Heavenly Gift.

September 9, 2013 – Denver Snuffer’s Stake Presidency and High Council convened and decided to excommunicate Snuffer from the Church. Some argue as a gift to president Nelson from an aspiring stake president Truman Hunt.

September 10, 2013 – Denver began a one year speaking tour to show the Lord his gratitude for his conversion to the Gospel, among other good things. He received a call from Truman Hunt informing him of his excommunication as he was driving to his first speaking venue. Denver was an active and faithful member of the Church for 40 years to the day.

September 11, 2001 – The United States was attacked, buildings fall and grind its victims to powder and US leaders use the attack as an excuse to begin to destroy numerous constitutionally protected liberties. 9/11 is a symbol of the beginning of the end of the US and the gentiles.

September 11, 1857 – Mountain Meadows Massacre – One of the darkest days in Mormon history. It becomes a symbol of the Church’s decline and goes down in history as one of the greatest acts of mass murder in American history.

August 21, 2017 – Thomas Monson, President of LDS Church, turns 90… Monson dies 135 days later.

August 21, 2017 – Total Solar Eclipse, the first of two, approximately 7 years apart. The two pathways where totality was or will be observed will have made a huge X, crossing out the United States.

September 9, 2023 – Church president Russell Nelson turns 99.

September 10, 2023 – Denver Snuffer celebrates 50 years since his baptism.

September 11, 2023 – Russell Nelson falls. Apparently badly enough that the fall is kept secret from the public for 3 weeks. He did not attend General Conference this past weekend.

September 22, 1823 – Joseph is instructed to go to the Hill Comorah to receive the plates for the first time. He was not yet spiritually prepared to receive them.

September 22, 2023 – Wallace B. Smith, last grandson of Joseph Smith to lead the RLDS Church dies at age 94. 200 years to the day his great grandfather went to meet the angel to see the plates.

Today, October 6, 2023, John the Baptist’s birthday. A reminder that God sent an obscure servant to prepare the world for Christ’s first coming and to wrest the authority from the Jews, and they knew it not. And that God will send a Davidic servant in these last days to prepare the world for Christ’s second coming…

October 14, 2023, eight days from now, Utah and other states will witness the ring of fire solar eclipse.

It’s also interesting to note that according to Jewish tradition, a young male is circumcised on the 8th day. Ring of fire…

In 185 days from today we will witness the next total solar eclipse on April 8th, 2024.

I’m not sure what it all means, but I do think it’s all very worthwhile to consider.

Unity in Humanity Interfaith Celebration

I was asked to share this information about an upcoming conference. I’ve enjoyed watching interfaith presentations in the past from people of all different religious backgrounds at this conference and appreciate the efforts of its organizers. Denver Snuffer will be one of the speakers.

Unity In Humanity Interfaith Celebration

October 14th, 2023
10:00 a.m. -1:00 p.m.

Zoom link for the conference

Urim and Thummim

A friend of mine recommended a book to me recently called By Means of the Urim and Thummim. It’s written by two seemingly active LDS authors who make a compelling argument that Joseph Smith actually used the Urim and Thummim, attached to a breastplate, to translate the Book of Mormon, rather than a stone or stones he peered into in his hat, which is the narrative the Church now has embraced.

It’s interesting that the argument has to be made, since Joseph himself never mentioned using a hat or any other seer stone in the translation process.

With the records was found a curious instrument which the ancients called “Urim and Thummim,” which consisted of two transparent stones set in the rim of a bow fastened to a breastplate. Through the medium of the Urim and Thummim I translated the record by the gift, and power of God (Times and Seasons, March 1, 1842).

“For over a century and a half”, the authors write, “most believers accepted Smith’s translation narrative.”

Without spoiling the book for those who wish to read it, the Church eventually embracing the once anti-Mormon stone in the hat translation theory had a lot to do with its insecurities over the Spaulding letter accusations — only made worse later by Mark Hoffman’s forgeries and accompanying fabricated, fantastical stories about Joseph — picked up on and embellished by LDS historian D. Michael Quinn — all of which led to an updated Church narrative that appeases those who believe Joseph to have been more of a treasure seeking, magic loving, shaman/mystical type — maybe crazy, maybe genius, maybe inspired by dark powers — young ignorant farm boy. The authors suggest that by embracing this stone in hat theory, Joseph and his mission are delegitimized. I tend to agree.

Joseph Smith never (not even once) suggested that he translated the Book of Mormon by looking into a hat. In fact, only two somewhat contemporary witnesses can be found ever saying anything at all about a hat: David Whitmer, many, many years later while still very much anti-Joseph and anti-LDS and an elderly Emma who was “said” to have seen Joseph translate by said means. The problem with her testimony is that it was published well after she died and was not in her own writing (second hand / hearsay) and her son, Joseph III, who took the interview, backtracked from the stone in hat theory himself in later years. In other words, even he didn’t promote the stone in hat narrative, but instead he promoted the Urim and Thummim direct translation account.

Many revelations were given through the Urim and Thummim and Joseph apparently knew how to use it. No revelation is said to have been received by means of a Stone in the Hat in the D&C. Oliver was chastised by the Lord because he supposed that all he had to do was ask to be able to translate using the instruments—

Behold, you have not understood; you have supposed that I would give it unto you when you took no thought save it was to ask me. But behold, I say unto you that you must study it out in your mind, then you must ask me if it be right, and if it is right, I will cause that your bosom shall burn within you; therefore, you shall feel that it is right. But if it be not right, you shall have no such feelings, but you shall have a stupor of thought that shall cause you to forget the thing which is wrong. Therefore, you cannot write that which is sacred save it be given you from me.

Apparently (as the authors point out), the work of translation took much more than just asking and peeping into a stone in a hat. It actually took real, intellectual effort and study, all while looking at the characters through the Urim and Thummim on the gold pages of the record which somehow conveyed a translation to the one attempting to do the work.

They also note how strange it would be that the Lord would go through so much effort to preserve the records for thousands of years, costing untold lives, and then risking the lives of Joseph and his family and others by their mere existence, if Joseph didn’t actually need them in order to translate. Why have them under a cloth? Or in the room? Or why even bring them out of the ground? Why carry them across 100s, maybe 1000s of miles for more than 1000 years? Why edit them (Mormon)? Why hide them (Moroni)? If they were never actually needed in the translation process?

I personally have not toiled much over this question in part because for most of my life, we were never told it was true that Joseph used a hat while translating. It wasn’t until many years later as an adult that the hat story became something I ever heard given any credibility by the LDS Church. Anti-Mormons made those accusations, but not the Church itself. I actually find the authors to be very persuasive and I appreciate their efforts. I prefer their version of the story and especially so because it is consistent with Joseph’s own testimony.

The Church undermines itself when it does not know its own history or defends it wrongly as it has done with so many important topics.

Millions of LDS Church members celebrated Russell Nelson who turned 99 recently. He is called by his people: prophet, seer, and revelator. President Nelson, takes the view that Joseph translated the Book of Mormon with a seer stone(s) in his hat while the plates were usually covered next to him. It seems as is shown in this video that he espouses the magical translation D. Michael Quinn narrative.

After reading the above mentioned book, I think many would be perplexed that President Nelson does not believe Joseph’s own account. Especially if they believe that he too is a “seer” as was Joseph.

The term “seer” is one used often in Mormonism, but is it being used correctly? Here’s what the Book of Mormon says about seership:

Now Ammon said unto him, I can assuredly tell thee, O king, of a man that can translate the records; for he has wherewith that he can look and translate all records that are of ancient date, and it is a gift from God. And the things are called interpreters, and no man can look in them except he be commanded, lest he should look for that he ought not and he should perish. And whosoever is commanded to look in them, the same is called seer. And behold, the king of the people who is in the land of Zarahemla is the man that is commanded to do these things, and who has this high gift from God. And the king said that a seer is greater than a prophet. And Ammon said that a seer is a revelator and a prophet also. And a gift which is greater can no man have, except he should possess the power of God, which no man can; yet a man may have great power given him from God. But a seer can know of things which have passed, and also of things which are to come. And by them shall all things be revealed, or rather shall secret things be made manifest, and hidden things shall come to light, and things which are not known shall be made known by them, and also things shall be made known by them which otherwise could not be known. Thus, God has provided a means that man, through faith, might work mighty miracles. Therefore he becometh a great benefit to his fellow beings. (RE Mosiah 5:13)

The way the word seer is used in Mormonism is akin to the Catholic term “His Holiness” — a title used by Catholics and LDS Church leaders alike when referring to the Pope, which for me should ONLY refer to the Lord. It’s equally offensive to me to just give someone the title of seer if they are not in fact, “seeing” or “translating” as the above scripture describes.

The prophet Ammon did not refer to himself or to anyone in blanket fashion as a seer. He points out that a seer is greater than a prophet. And that Mosiah is a seer precisely because he looks through the “interpreters” aka the Urim and Thummim AND he can be trusted by the Lord to do so AND he has been given the gift and power to translate using them. Something apparently Ammon and others, despite their tremendous faith to take on Lamanite armies, and their ability to shake the earth with their words, etc. could not do. They were apparently not seers. At least not in the same way that Mosiah was.

And yet, 15 men in the LDS Church are gratuitously given the titles of Seers. Holy seers. Holy prophets. Men of God who reveal His will. Is this all true? Or is this blasphemy?

If Russell Nelson and these 14 other men are in fact seers, why can’t they translate with the stone they allege Joseph used to translate? The stone in their possession. And why have they not been entrusted with the Urim and Thummim as many other prophets were in the scriptures? And why has the testimony of the Seers changed from Brigham to present about how the Book of Mormon was translated?

Lastly and most importantly, why call them something they clearly are not? This, in my view, delegitimizes them AND Joseph AND the Book of Mormon.

A Host of Other “Isms”

As the world descends further into darkness, the president of the LDS Church is once again speaking out against “racism, sexism, and a host of other ‘isms’…” that “are tragically limiting in the way we regard and treat each other.”

The 98 year old Mormon leader made these recent comments in a recorded acceptance speech of the King-Mandela Peace Prize.

In his acceptance speech, Nelson begins by mentioning the “thousands of times he stood in an operating room, with people’s hearts in his hands.” Mentioning his illustrious and fulsome career that ended 40+ years ago, is something that the Mormon leader loves to do it seems.

Here’s the video:

When looking at the president’s Facebook page, one can find other videos as well as pictures of himself often times in an embrace-pose with someone who is infirm. There’s even a picture of president Nelson playing a grand piano.

Nelson posted just a few weeks ago that he is now starting to use a walker.

This is what he said:

You may have heard a rumor that someone saw me somewhere using a walker or a wheelchair. Well, it’s not a rumor. From time to time, I’m having a small challenge with my balance. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised when little issues arise as I near the century mark. Gratefully, my heart is good, my spirit is strong as are my legs, and my brain still works. I love you my dear brothers and sisters, and am grateful every day to serve the Lord and you. Little challenges with balance should be the least of our worries. Onward and upward!

The comments praising president Nelson are interesting to read. Here are just a few examples:


So much for rumours. They are just that… I’m 82, still working. Plan to be at least 100 before I “retire” as that word implies. Or, with the way I’m going, perhaps I’ll change it to 120. I’m a past nurse so believe me, you are outstanding in all you do! No One, could have led us the way you led last Conference. What’s alittle walking stick, even that walking chair! Age!? None of that has a bearing to anything. My eyes see a prophet strong and clear. Thank you for all you do ❤️😘❤️

It matters not whether you use wheelchair or walker. What matters is that you are a prophet of God. We love you and sustain you, President Nelson.

Thank you for being a shining example to all, including when it comes to following sound medical advice!

We love and sustain you Pres. Russel M. Nelson and your loving wife Sister Wendy W. Nelson. We pray for you both and love you very much. Thank you for your guidance and council in General conference. I also listen to Sister Nelson’s talks that have helped me greatly.Use it another 20 years!!! We want you to stay on this side of the veil as long as God allows! 💕

You shouldn’t have to explain a walker. You are doing amazingly well for your age. We love and sustain you and thank Heavenly Father daily for a living prophet.

You are an inspiration to me with or without your walker. Onward Christian Soldier. I admire and love you Dear President Nelson!

We love you President! Thanks for always being an inspiration to us all. ❤️❤️ Onward and Upward!

We love you to president and we love that your such an example of Christ like love by helping people across the entire world and do your best to not let things stop you, your an inspiration to us all!!! ♥️ Thankyou so much for all you do!!!

Hurrah for Israel! May the Lord continue to bless you and sustain you and the leaders of his church! The world needs every blessing it can get right now.

Thank you for being so open with the use of things that help to protect you. We are so blessed to have you. Your guidance is what we need in this world right now. We thank Thee o God for a Prophet. We pray for you and all the General authorizes and their families. Again thank you and Wendy’s great service to the Lord. Hear is a chuckle I heard from a Dr once as we asked about a daughter’s prognosis. He took off her shoe and then her sock. He then looked at her foot and in between her toes. Wrinkled his for head and said ” nope can’t find any expiration date”. I think of you that way too. Thank Heavenly Father. 😊

Dear President Russell M. Nelson you have no idea how much these simple words helped my mother today as she has been having health issues!! Thank you thank you! #Onward&Upward

What a remarkable man this Prophet is!! You are SOOO loved by all!!

Oh dear Prophet you rock that walker like the prophet you are. Prayer for you always 💕💕💕💕💕🙏🙏🙏🙏

I love and honour the Prophet of God for this day, for this world. Your extra wheels just shows your wisdom. Thank you for leading with strength, His authority, and His love. Love you President Nelson ❤️⚘️🇫🇮

I don’t like rumors so I’m glad to hear from the honorable man and prophet of these latter days! I pray for you and with you as well as sustain you!! May God the father continue to bless you as well as us with your kind heart and service!! ❤️🤍💙💜💪🧠🙏

As I read the caption of your post, it feels like I am hearing you say it. We love you, President Nelson. Thank you for your services.

There are more than 10,000 such comments…. which brings me to the president’s message on the importance of preaching against a host of isms.

Let’s begin with narcissism.

Narcissism is defined as:

  1. Excessive preoccupation with or admiration of oneself. synonymconceit.
  2. A personality disorder characterized by self-preoccupation, need for admiration, lack of empathy, and unconscious deficits in self-esteem.
  3. Erotic pleasure derived from contemplation or admiration of one’s own body or self, especially as a fixation on or a regression to an infantile stage of development.

Many people in global leadership positions and/or who are driven by success, are tempted by and succomb to narcissism. Its effects are real. And in some instances, millions of people fall captive to the narcissism of such a person.

The next ism we should discern and preach against is idolism.

Idolism is defined as:

  1. The worship of idols.
  2. A false or misleading notion; fallacy.

We live in a world of self-promotion and idolatry. When a person places themself on a pedestal and highlights their life as an example to follow — better yet — when an entire religious group’s righteousness is measured by following a man perfectly, this is known as idolism. And it is a fallacy to do so, but is nonetheless held up as doctrine by those who benefit from it the most. Without any scriptural predicate.

The last ism I think we should focus on is activism. The LDS Church has been quite vocal in advocating for social causes the world deems popular under the highly praised and revered president Nelson. The UN Global 2030 Initiative has been one such cause the Church has aligned itself with.

Activism is defined as:

  1. The use of direct, often confrontational action, such as a demonstration or strike, in opposition to or support of a cause.
  2. a policy of taking direct and militant action to achieve a political or social goal.
  3. The practice of using action to achieve a result, such as political demonstration or a strike in support of or in opposition to an issue.

Sometimes activism is overt, such as when one openly preaches, protests, and/or gets involved politically. Other times activism is more passive and subtle. The church forcing BYU students, young missionaries, church workers and others to comply with their self-imposed Co-Vid19 vaccine mandates is a form of activism. In fact this is an example of a social issue being militantly pushed upon others with tremendous coercion and with untold consequences still to be determined.

Another overt display of activism recently was when the Church openly supported and officially endorsed the so called marriage equality act and made sure to send “church” representatives to the historic event for photos. Here’s one of Elder Jack Gerard of the Seventy with former Oregon LDS senator Gordon Smith and former Mormon and current gay political activist Senator Kyrsten Sinema posing together at the signing of the new law.

The Church’s activism was also on full display in April 2021, when then Church general authority Sharon Eubank, showcased queerness at BYU at a women’s conference where all manner of false doctrine was taught and applauded:

As things progress towards the Second Coming, we are tasked with the duty to discern between truth and error. No matter how kind we may feel by “loving” and tolerating some person or some cause, when we lose the ability to discern between truth and error, the greater concern is that it may lead to also becoming past feeling and unable to be guided by the Holy Ghost.

And when an institution we have long loved and been loyal to betrays us, I know the task becomes more difficult… I know this from my own personal experiences. But, the task is the same. The way is strait and the gate is narrow to our Lord and we may often feel alone and abandoned on the journey that leads to Him.

May we not be confused by the host of isms that seek to carefully lead us down to hell.

Where are our leaders?

Click on photo for petition

A friend of mine recently sent me a petition to Governor Cox requesting he and other leaders do something to stop the grooming of our children in Utah. Somehow Cox, and many others, including LDS Church leaders, do not seem to see the harm of this latest strange push to normalize gender confusion and sexual deviance among our innocent children. Some of the comments on my friend’s petition highlight the state of mind of such child grooming supporters.

One commenter says:  Okay, and why can’t drag queens read to kids? They are literally just wearing a dress and wig and reading kids books. I see no harm in it. I would like like to ask where the danger in allowing kids to be read to is.

Another:  What the F— is wrong with this image? What is going on here that bothers you so much?

Who would have thought just a few years ago that any of this craziness would be normalized, especially in Utah?

There was a drag queen event held in the quaint small Mormon town of Logan, Utah recently that was sponsored by the once family friendly Elements restaurant, just next to the Mormon Marriott, both of which are owned by a local LDS businessman. Strangely, I’m not aware of any boycotts or local backlash like we’ve seen with national brands such as Budweiser, Target, Disney, etc. Perhaps LDS people and Church leaders in Utah just don’t think it’s all that big of a deal. I personally will never eat at Elements again, just out of principle.

Meanwhile here’s what IS happening in Utah concurrent with this disturbing trend.

Headline from last week:

Utah primary schools ban Bible for ‘vulgarity and violence’

And even more ironic, there’s this headline also from last week:

A Utah school district removed the Bible from some school libraries. Now it’s received a request to review the Book of Mormon

Good is evil and evil is good. And no one seems to be too concerned here in Utah…  as prophecy is being fulfilled and as our nation is ripening for destruction, which will begin “in His House” (T&C 124:6).

The mood we are now witnessing makes me think of the scripture in the Book of Mormon that speaks of a similar time on this land when such wickedness had also gotten above its previous nation’s people. Their goal, just like the Gadiantons of today, was to eradicate all goodness and “authority” from society in order to normalize all things evil:

…Behold, the pride of this nation, or the people of the Nephites, hath proved their destruction, except they should repent. Pray for them, my son, that repentance may come unto them. But behold, I fear lest the spirit hath ceased striving with them. And in this part of the land, they are also seeking to put down all power and authority which cometh from God, and they are denying the holy ghost. And after rejecting so great a knowledge, my son, they must perish soon, unto the fulfilling of the prophecies which were spoken by the prophets, as well as the words of our Savior himself. Farewell, my son, until I shall write unto you or shall meet you again. Amen. (RE Moroni 8:5)

“Eat your vitamins” and hold onto your walkers — we’ll talk about President Nelson’s response specifically in my next post.

Latter-day Comicon

This past LDS General Conference once again provided members and non-members alike an opportunity to observe the teachings of Church leaders. As always, we are instructed to discern if a teacher and his/her message is from God, or not. If we choose wrongly, we are often captured by false spirits and kept asleep, further lulled and deceived by the philosophies of men mingled with scripture, which by hearkening to, will deceive the very elect in these last days.

Elder Haynie, of the first quorum of the seventy, shared one message in particular worth discussing. It’s important to note that since all General Conference talks are pre-approved by church correlation and are rehearsed at a podium so that all is perfectly timed and scripted, we must conclude that Church leadership was not only aware of what Elder Haynie would teach, but that they also endorsed the message as Church doctrine.

For any disagreeing with this point I would cite you to the example of Elder Poelman in 1984’s October General Conference, who, before the Church adopted the policy of pre-approving all talks, gave a message deemed to be false doctrine. The Brethren made him re-write and re-record it (with a cough track) to correct the error. Ironically, Elder Poelman got the doctrine right the first time when he taught that there is a difference between the church and the gospel.

The main message from Elder Haynie’s talk was that the living prophet is always more important than the dead ones. This is nothing new or shocking for those acquainted with Mormonism. Brigham Young and most Church leaders since, have all become quite comfortable emphasizing how the living oracles are better than the dead ones.

Elder Benson’s talk entitled the Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet, which was denounced by then President Spencer W. Kimball, has since nonetheless become the established doctrine of the LDS Church. The talk includes the following teachings, many of which which were deemed by Kimball to be false and damnable ideas:

1) The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.

2) The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.

3) The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.

4) The prophet will never lead the church astray.

5) The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act in any matter in any time.

6) The prophet does not have to say “Thus Saith the Lord” to give us scripture.

7) The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.

8) The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.

9) The prophet can receive revelation on any matter — temporal or spiritual.

10) The prophet may be involved in civic matters.

11) The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.

12) The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.

13) The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidency–the highest quorum in the Church.

14) The prophet and the presidency – the living prophet and the First Presidency – follow them and be blessed; reject them and suffer. (Source)

Interestingly, the Church leaders of Jesus’ day were criticized by the Lord for revering the dead prophets (whom their fathers had killed) while rejecting and stoning the living prophets sent among them.

Today the Church has the opposite tradition. It rejects (according to Elder Haynie, Elder Benson, Brigham Young et al.) any and all dead prophets in favor of their living “prophets,” whether they actually be true or not. In other words, they stone the dead prophets and declare any potential living prophet coming among them, who is not the president of the Church, as false.

Ultimately, the problem is the same of course — church leaders of both the former and the latter day churches simply could not and cannot discern true from false messengers and assume that because they carry the titles of prophets, seers, and revelators (Pharisees, Sadducees, Priests), that God has given His power to them and even He cannot now take it away. The Great Jehovah is bound, they proclaim, and must follow their Order.

It begins to feel a lot like John the Baptist “wresting the authority” from the The Church of Jesus Christ of Moses’-day Saints… and they knew it not, because all they knew was that they had authority and they had the keys (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 276).

In his talk, Elder Haynie declares and reiterates the Church’s official position that in fact, “unlike vintage comic books and classic cars, prophetic teachings do not become more valuable with age.” Elder Haynie goes on to say that “we should not seek to use the words of past prophets to dismiss the teachings of the living prophets.”

Now, I realize that Elder Haynie is most likely emphasizing the need for this principle to be especially applied to more modern day church leaders who are known for varying in teachings from one presidency and one church era to the next. For example, if and when the words of Brigham Young seem to no longer be true or applicable, we must defer to Russell Nelson for clarification. For “inspired updates and revelatory adjustments.” In their view, I’m sure, sadly, the same would apply to Joseph Smith and they would choose Russell over Joseph.

But the further implication is that when Isaiah or Moses or Malachi or Nephi or Adam and Moroni (i.e. the Lord) have taught a doctrine in Scripture, it is a) likely less valuable because it is vintage and out of date and b) is never to be used as a standard for truth in place of the words of Russell Marion Nelson, the 97 year old safe and effective prophet.

The pattern set forth by the Lord and employed through the true and holy prophets who are His seed is quite different than what the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has set forth as its doctrine.

We need to decide which of these teachings is true doctrine if we are to survive the coming day of judgment. Again, if we choose wrongly, we will be damned and we will perish.

Here’s the Lord’s Pattern

When the Lord appeared to the young boy Joseph, He quoted Malachi, Isaiah, and Jeremiah when He could have simply said, “Thus saith the Lord unto you this day…” The Lord instead chose to quote vintage and classic prophets from, in some cases, more than 2,000 years prior.

When He walked with His disciples on the road to Emmaus, He opened and expounded the scriptures unto them from the beginning and their hearts burned within them (Read more here about this pattern).

Could you imagine going forward 2,000 years and the Lord appearing unto some obscure soon to be prophet declaring, “Let me now share the parable of the pickle from my servant Elder David Bednar” or “the parable of the proper way to crush plastic water bottles from my beloved servant Allen.” Or “How great are the words of Spencer (not be be confused with Visions of Glory Spencer)…”?

Not likely… the LDS Church of the year 2030 won’t likely share the teachings of Russell Nelson, and so why would the Lord share them in the future?

And so what does this tell us?

The Lord instructed Lehi to send his sons to retrieve the Brass Plates so that they would have the words of very old prophets, likely dating back many centuries to Joseph, who was sold into Egypt in about 1910 B.C., and who was Lehi’s ancestor also with ties to Egypt, hence the likely reason the record was etched using hieroglyphs. And hence the reason that Lehi, who would have studied those records previously, knew “the language” of his fathers. Ultimately the record goes back to the beginning of time, to the Ancient of Days, our parents Adam and Eve. Vintage indeed.

And behold, it is wisdom in God that we should obtain these records that we may preserve unto our children the language of our fathers, and also that we may preserve unto them the words which have been spoken by the mouth of all the holy prophets, which have been delivered unto them by the spirit and power of God since the world began, even down unto this present time. And it came to pass that after this manner of language did I persuade my brethren that they might be faithful in keeping the commandments of God. 1 Ne. 1:12

If living prophets were so important to Lehi, then why not just write new scriptures as they went? Nephi, Jacob, Enos, Alma, Mosiah and all the way up to Moroni, could have just given awesome talks and told cool stories and that could have been their canon. Instead of endlessly quoting Isaiah and the Brass Plates (Zenos, Zenock, etc…) and risking their lives to get the old worn out comic books from Laban’s treasury when they already had their own Liahona and eventually their own seer stones.

On the contrary, we are taught that IF Nephi had not successfully retrieved the record found on the Brass Plates, his new nation would have perished in unbelief just as the people of Zarahemla (the Mulekites) who had brought no records with them, and who had left Jerusalem at about the same time as Lehi. Omni 1:5

The hubris today among us is now beyond the pale. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-days Saints has fully embraced a doctrine that transforms their “prophet” beyond the Holy Scriptures into a deity who need only speak, and his words are true and will override anything the Lord has ever said through anyone else since the beginning of time. They reject the prophets (as needed) from Adam to Abraham to Moses to Lehi to Joseph, in favor of last days’ word salad prophets who at best give lip service to sacred words they do not understand and cannot teach.

There’s at least one quick way to discern whether a prophet is true or false. It’s laid out in the scriptures and it’s the reason Nephi is often frustrated with his brothers and others.

Wherefore hearken, O my people which are of the house of Israel, and give ear unto my words, for because the words of Isaiah are not plain unto you, nevertheless, they are plain unto all those that are filled with the spirit of prophecy. 2 Ne. 11:1

And the Lord follows up with the commandment:

And now behold, I say unto you that ye had ought to search these things. Yea, a commandment I give unto you that ye search these things diligently, for great are the words of Isaiah. For surely he spake as touching all things concerning my people which are of the house of Israel. Therefore, it must needs be that he must speak also to the gentiles. And all things that he spake hath been and shall be, even according to the words which he spake. Therefore, give heed to my words. Write the things which I have told you, and, according to the time and the will of the Father, they shall go forth unto the gentiles. And whosoever will hearken unto my words, and repenteth and is baptized, the same shall be saved. Search the prophets, for many there be that testify of these things. RE 3 Ne. 10:4

And so, if a prophet be true, he will search diligently, teach profoundly, and understand fully, the words of Isaiah (for starters), because he/she has the spirit of prophecy. If a “prophet” cannot prophesy and does not have the spirit of prophecy, then he/she is not and cannot be a prophet. Lest God be a liar and a trifler of souls. Which He is not.

I’ve waited a month or so to post on this to see how this teaching would go over with church members generally. I’m saddened and disappointed that no correction was made by the Church and that no member of the Church even seems slightly bothered by this damnable false doctrine yet again so carelessly preached.

The truth is, vintage prophets ARE akin to comic books, old coins, fine wine, Harley Davidsons and baseball cards — AND their words get better and better with time AND will be vindicated, no matter how old. In fact, their words are better than the aforementioned vintage items and will actually endure forever. Because TRUE prophets speak the words of the Lord, who IS Endless and Eternal.

Vintage Prophets of old saw our day and they wondered why the leaders of the Lord’s once Holy Church have now polluted it and “transfigured the holy word of God.” Morm. 4:5

Jeremiah saw those who would be cursed for putting their trust in man (i.e. church leaders) and who would inhabit a “Salt Land” (aka SLC):

Thus says the Lord: Cursed be the man that trusts in man and makes flesh his arm, and whose heart departs from the Lord. For he shall be like the bush in the desert and shall not see when good comes, but shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness, in a salt land and not inhabited. Blessed is the man that trusts in the Lord and whose hope the Lord is, for he shall be as a tree planted by the waters and that spreads out her roots by the river, and shall not see when heat comes, but her leaf shall be green and shall not be anxious in the year of drought, neither shall cease from yielding fruit. Jer. 6:12

Long ago, the Lord spoke through Isaiah and told him:

Now go, write it before them upon plates and note it in a book, that it may be for the time to come, for ever and ever — that this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the Lord, who say to the seers, See not — and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits, get out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us. Wherefore, thus says the Holy One of Israel: Because you despise this word, and trust in oppression and perverseness, and rely thereon, therefore this iniquity shall be to you as a breach ready to fall, swelling out in a high wall, whose breaking comes suddenly, at an instant. And he shall break it as the breaking of the potter’s vessel that is broken in pieces, he shall not spare, so that there shall not be found in the bursting of it a shard to take fire from the hearth, or to take water out of the pit. For thus says the Lord God, the Holy One of Israel: In returning and rest shall you be saved, in quietness and in confidence shall be your strength, and you would not. But you said, No, for we will flee upon horses — therefore shall you flee. And, We will ride upon the swift — therefore shall they that pursue you be swift. One thousand shall flee at the rebuke of one; at the rebuke of five shall you flee, until you are left as a beacon upon the top of a mountain, and as an ensign on a hill. Isa. 9:9

…and He told Ezekiel…

And the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy and say unto them, Thus says the Lord God unto the shepherds: Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves. Should not the shepherds feed the flocks? You eat the fat and you clothe yourself with the wool. You kill them that are fed, but you feed not the flock. The diseased have you not strengthened, neither have you healed that which was sick, neither have you bound up that which was broken, neither have you brought again that which was driven away, neither have you sought that which was lost; but with force and with cruelty have you ruled them. And they were scattered because there is no shepherd, and they became food to all the beasts of the field when they were scattered. My sheep wandered through all the mountains and upon every high hill, yea, my flock was scattered upon all the face of the earth, and none did search or seek after them.

Therefore, you shepherds, hear the word of the Lord. As I live, says the Lord God, surely because my flock became a prey, and my flock became food to every beast of the field, because there was no shepherd, neither did my shepherds search for my flock, but the shepherds fed themselves and fed not my flock, therefore, O you shepherds, hear the word of the Lord. Thus says the Lord God: Behold, I am against the shepherds, and I will require my flock at their hand, and cause them to cease from feeding the flock; neither shall the shepherds feed themselves anymore, for I will deliver my flock from their mouth, that they may not be food for them. Ezek. 17:5,6

Sadly, these words and others like them are never expounded by today’s church leaders in any setting and no one dare ever apply them to ourselves. Instead they write endless autobiographies and they tell endless stories about airplanes and pickles and pigeons and field fires and olympic races and they get weepy in speaking about their missions to Japan–mingled with a scant scripture reference from time to time. But they do not understand nor do they teach nor do they expound the scriptures. Period.

These men today set themselves up as lights to the world and quote themselves endlessly… until they are dead and gone and their teachings are dead and gone with them. Then the next company moves on to the next “prophet” ready to discard everything they once held onto so dearly, and so recently.

Change is the new constant and the new disciple’s reward. Change proves God is speaking through them. Change is what keeps everyone invigorated and engaged.

Ancient, true prophets, however, warned us long ago of a time now fast approaching when we the Lord will put an end to nations and to kingdoms and to our horses and our chariots and to our flocks and husbandmen Jer. 18:14. And to false prophets Jer. 6:3. When our cities will be laid to waste Ezek. 4:5. When we are swept from this continent, because we no longer serve Jesus Christ Eth. 1:7. When anyone not willing to pick up the sword against his neighbor must flee to Zion for safety T&C 31:15.

Their words WILL BE vindicated and so we may want to start searching and pondering them instead of the words of the comical men of our day, who see not and who hear not and who, to their own condemnation, are denied access to the greater things 3 Ne. 12:1.

I for one, must do better. And the Church should be ashamed that members and leaders alike no longer care or notice when such errors are taught as doctrine.

Nothing Varying

In attempting to answer the question “What have I learned and what ought I to have learned?” —

I’ve learned just how incredibly difficult it is to arrive at a consensus in a group without the assistance of a leader, teacher, or arbiter.

In referring to one specific teacher, it’s his message, and his message only, that has united us and has helped us become more of one mind — up to this point. No other messenger and no other message unites us the way this one does and has. We, collectively, recognize his message is from the Lord.
I quickly learned as he was commanded to not participate in the Statement of Principles, just how hard it is to “receive” revelation either alone or as a body. Much like Oliver Cowdery wanting to translate and his subsequent disappointment when he found out that it wasn’t as easy as it looked.
I also observed that even with the best of our tools we could not build the house the Lord had commanded us to build. We have PhDs among us as well as many other intelligent, educated, and wise people. And yet, all our efforts using those tools failed to accomplish the Lord’s project. We had wrongly assumed there would be wood to build with and so our tools were of no use.
I also observed that we have an amazingly beautiful array of diverse traditions and life experiences and cultures among us—foundational blocks that are core to what and who we are. Those “stones” also failed to produce our desired success. We had wrongly assumed the Lord wanted a stone house.
Gratefully, the effort that did succeed, came from a group who many of you were a part of. Your group interestingly, when arriving at the site, had no assumptions and was the only group to notice how beautiful the location was. You marveled at it and it inspired you.

When the servants arrived at the site, they too saw there was no stone for a stone house, neither was there wood for a wooden house. They pondered why their master should choose such a place for his house. Looking about they saw the place was high and lifted up, as if the whole world could be seen from the wondrous place. An approaching enemy could be spied from a long distance. They said, Surely the master has chosen a place of safety, peace, and beauty. Our master was wise in choosing this spot. He must also have been wise in commanding we build here his house. What are we to do? (T&C 176:6)

As we all know, this group ended up using the clay they found at the site that had united them there together. This effort produced the edifice required by the Lord.

I place myself in each group of people in this parable, although I was not chosen with the drawing of the Lots.

I tried to use my perceived skills (tools) to help produce the required document and voted in favor of at least one of many scholarly produced efforts. And I’m guessing that when those scholarly efforts failed, that I went about picking up stones with others trying a different approach.

Like you, I was so hopeful we could figure out a way to accomplish our assignment, but the further we went along, the less likely it seemed we’d ever get the voice of the people agreeing on both methodology and end product.

For me, it was not until I read the Lots’ document that I was again hopeful and that I finally felt we may have something beautiful to present to to the Lord. I loved the faith-filled, humble approach this group took, trying to include as many people as possible in the project (or at least giving everyone an equal chance to be selected by Lots who wanted to be). And I loved the end product. To me it is a beautiful document that I treasure.

It’s my understanding that some among us do not share my love for this document. I’d just like to share the main reason why I do—

Every other effort previous to the Lots, represented some person’s or group’s effort to put on paper their own inspiration, intelligence, tradition, or revelation, thus to some degree, using their own words. While I voted for many of these documents, it was only with the hope of accomplishing the assignment and for the sake of unity (I.e. spirit of the Epigraph). None of them got me excited or gave me the hope it would get us across the finish line.

The Lots’ document, however, was different. In writing it, they ONLY used the words of the Lord and His two latter day servants. Words we ALL believe are true. Words our hearts are or should be ONE in.

For me, this approach is symbolic of the clay that has united us at this particular site, to hear the words of the Lord’s true messenger. The many words (the clay) found right below the debris the group worked to remove, have metaphorically been like the clay the Lord used to anoint the eyes of the blind, thus healing our blindness, giving us new eyes to see. Or like the clay of the Potter’s wheel, with each of us as a vessel being shaped by His Words as He turns us and molds us, hoping to make us into something beautiful. Perhaps the “House” was always about us becoming something worth saving — shaped by the words we all found delicious at the site we were led to…

Our blindness, our deafness, our sickness, our lameness and even deadness in some cases — have all been healed by these amazing words of eternal life from Heaven! This, after all, is how the Doctrine of Christ is supposed to work. Many of us have come to proclaim: Hosannah, Blessed be the name of our God!

We have been brought together, united and most of us have become even of one mind when it comes to this message… nothing varying. It’s when we seek to vary the message that I think we lose that oneness.

I am guilty of such variations (every time I open my mouth) and apologize to all of you for my weaknesses and foolishness. It’s hard to convey the love I feel for this little diverse group and I am truly sorry for all the times I am wrong in my thinking and/or have caused any single one of you offense. My prayer is for all of us to be saved in these coming days.

I don’t post on this topic again, casually, or with any desire to hurt anyone reading. I recognize I may be wrong in my thinking. But I do feel it’s important to state our beliefs and to try to embrace truth.

I do want to thank those who went “without knowing beforehand.” You know who you are. I thank the Lots group for producing a document using only the words of the Lord, nothing varying. In my opinion, this is the only reason it pleased the Lord.

Surely the prophet Nephi who had raised his brother Timothy from the dead, could have preached his own sermon, but when it came time to preach, he did not do so. And all the chosen disciples followed this commandment. (See “Pattern for Understanding” below from the RE Glossary for more on this).

And it came to pass that they arose and ministered unto the people. And when they had ministered them same words which Jesus had spoken, nothing varying from the words which Jesus had spoken, behold, they knelt again and prayed to the Father in the name of Jesus; and they did pray for that which they most desired. (3 Nephi 9:2, my emphasis added)

There’s another example in the Book of Mormon that illustrates this same principle:

And it came to pass that Alma, having authority from God, ordained priests; even one priest to every fifty of their number did he ordain to preach unto them and to teach them concerning the things pertaining to the kingdom of God. And he commanded them that they should teach nothing save it were the things which he had taught and which had been spoken by the mouth of the holy prophets. Yea, even he commanded them that they should preach nothing save it were repentance and faith on the Lord, who had redeemed his people. And he commanded them that there should be no contention one with another, but that they should look forward with one eye, having one faith and one baptism, having their hearts knit together in unity and in love one towards another. And thus he commanded them to preach. And thus they became the children of God. (Mosiah 9:9, my emphasis added)

And of course we have the example of every angel who ever ministers, including the Lord Himself, who do nothing but quote and expound Scripture when they appear (See RE 3 Nephi 10 and 11 as one of many examples).

When we deviate from this principle, and to be clear there were many deviations made in most of our failed efforts to produce the Statement of Principles and the Guide and Standard, we could not be united, could not come to a consensus, and would not thus become the children of God… in other words, His people.

I am so thankful for all the efforts made by everyone in this difficult and humbling project. I especially thank the Lord for accepting ALL our labors, many of which (my own included) were wrong and stubborn and were based on our wrong assumptions and false traditions.

I lovingly invite those who feel angered or feel like you are not being heard, to drop your stones as many of us have had to do, that the Pathway to the House may be that much more beautiful.

The desire to undo or to redo the labors already approved by the Lord and to continue disputing is not and cannot be, in my opinion, from God.

Some Additional Reading


Pattern for Understanding Truth

And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself (Luke 14:3). This is the pattern adopted by the writers of the New Testament Gospels. Christ explained how to understand His ministry by using the law and prophets. The Gospels would not be written until decades after this, and they were composed following the Lord’s pattern (found in the discussion that took place on the road to Emmaus) to vindicate Him as the promised Lord and Redeemer, and thereby, fulfilling scripture. This framework appears in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. They all wove into their records how Christ fulfilled the prophecies. Christ proved He came and suffered to fulfill the prophets. He opened the scriptures unto them so that they understood (see Luke 14:7). The Gospel writers followed this same pattern. “Our Lord could have testified by revealing 10,000 new truths to these two disciples [on the road to Emmaus]. He could have disclosed to them new visions and predictions. Instead, He expounded the scriptures concerning Himself. That is how He wants us to learn the truth. When the Lord first spoke to me, He expounded the scriptures. When He rose from the grave, except for these two disciples, His visit with everyone that day was brief, even perfunctory. With others He proved He had risen. But with these two, the Lord took hours, walking and talking in a discourse wherein he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself (Luke 14:3). They did not recognize Him, but they were moved by the content of His sermon. When they arrived at Emmaus, He entered the house because they asked Him to stay. If they had not asked, He would have passed by. The Lord does not force Himself upon us. We must invite. At the end of this encounter, they said one to another, Did not our hearts burn within us while he talked with us by the way and while he opened to us the scriptures? (Luke 14:4). It is not necessary to reveal any new thing in order to open eyes to everything the Lord has, and is, doing. Nothing apart from expounding the scriptures is required. He did not think it was necessary even when He arose from the dead. In the First Vision, Christ quoted or paraphrased Isaiah, Ezekiel, and Paul. Like His discourse on the road to Emmaus, in the First Vision our Lord expounded scripture. This is the condition of the world. Today is when mankind searches the earth and does not find the word of God, while the scriptures are available and ignored. When [Nephi] visited Joseph Smith, he quoted prophecies from Malachi, Isaiah, Peter, and Joel (see JS-H 3:1–12). The pattern used by the Lord to reveal new truth is the same in every generation. The Lord is the same yesterday, today, and for ever. His path is straight and His course is one eternal round. Truth is best advanced by opening the scriptures.”1See also STUDYING THE SCRIPTURES.


What about disputing? (Blogpost)

I got emails and phone calls asking about Christ’s statement in 3 Nephi: “there shall be no disputations among you, as there hath hitherto been, neither shall there be disputations among you concerning the points of my doctrine, as there hath hitherto been. For verily, verily I say unto you, he that hath the spirit of contention is not of me, but is of the Devil, who is the father of contention; and he stirreth up the hearts of men to contend with anger, one with another.”I replied that you can disagree without an angry disputation. You can have good humor even while you detect a false spirit and reject it. You can wish people well as they go on their way, while altogether condemning their message as originating in a malignant source.It is not required that you attempt to persuade every person of their errors. If you make it clear you do not want to participate in their errors, that is enough.And you can do all those things without ever becoming angry and allowing your heart to become stirred up to contention and argument.If you refuse to make your rejection of false spirits clear, then you are contributing to evil. It is impossible to stand for the truth without rejecting errors and false spirits when they come to confront you. Christ expected us to do that. He even rebuked Peter, telling him: “Get thee behind me, Satan” when Peter opposed the will of the Father. Yet the same Christ announced the doctrine that we are not supposed to “contend” in “anger” with one another. The only conclusion we can reach is that Christ followed the principle He taught, and we can do so also while standing firm and detecting a false spirit when confronted by it.

Spencer W. Kimball’s Journals Online

A friend sent me a post from Reddit yesterday by u/Texastruthseeker about the Church’s recent release of Spencer W. Kimball’s journals, available now online. I was curious enough by the content of the post that I went to the Church’s website to take a look. Here’s the post from Reddit:

President Nelson ghostwrote the foreword to his autobiography (attributed to Spencer W. Kimball)

Some big news today with the church releasing digitized versions of Spencer W. Kimball’s personal journals.

I’ve been jumping around looking for anything interesting. Toward the end of his life the details are very brief each day but I was intrigued by the entries from 2/7/1979 and 2/27/1979:

Kimball: (Russell) “Nelson brought ‘a suggested foreword he has written for me that he would like approval to use in a compliation (sic) he has prepare on his life’s story. He has written a very interesting account of his activities, some which included experiences with me, and I assured him I would read it and give him approval to use it.’ [[a fulsome foreword for a man to write about himself!!]]”

I had to look up fulsome. Definition: complimentary or flattering to an excessive degree.

So what’s in the foreword Nelson wrote about himself on behalf of President Kimball?

You can read it here on starting on page 4:

Copied in part here. Copy and paste didn’t work perfectly from this file type so I had to be selective in what to include and there may be some slight errors (bold emphasis is mine)


By President Spencer W. Kimball

This book, the engaging record of the life and experiences of Russell Marion Nelson, is a fulfillment of a great dream. In these pages he has set forth a chronicle of his noble parentage and crystallized the many experiences of himself and his adorable family. This work will bring joy and peace and happiness to its readers.

The first time I saw the Nelson family was at a stake conference meeting in 1964. Eight daughters were singing a song, accompanied by their mother, Dantzel. I was amazed and pleased, and I thought, “What a perfect family! What beautiful parents! And what delightful children to grow up in one household.” I have known them from that time forward, and now there are nine daughters and one son. Brother Nelson has always been a family man first, and now all his family unite to bring him honor.

I owe much to him as a doctor. It was in 1971 in England that I first spoke to him of my heart problems. When we returned to the United States, investigation showed that I had problems with a deteriorating valve in my heart and an obstruction in an artery. I felt my life slipping away, and I wondered if perhaps the time had come for a younger man to enter the Quorum of the Twelve and do the work I could no longer do. But at the inspired insistence of President Harold B. Lee, I was prompted to press on. Therefore, my life was placed in the hands of this young doctor, in whom we noted a sweet Spirituality. Because of his skill as a surgeon—one who trusts in the power of the priesthood and relies on the Spirit of the Lord—my life was spared, even though the risks were very great for a man of my seventy-seven years.

We became close as I recovered from the open-heart surgery that he performed perfectly. Whenever I became discouraged, there was always his sweet, understanding spirit to buoy me up.

Then President Lee died in December 1973. We never thought it could happen, for he was younger than I and seemingly in good health; therefore, we were all taken by surprise. Brother Nelson, of his own accord, came to my side immediately in case he should be needed. I appreciated his thoughtfulness very much…

It pleases me very much to note that he has done a superb work in assembling the information to bring this book into existence…It seems to me that it has been done beautifully and without flaw. Long will his children and their posterity honor this great man, and long will they remember that he followed the precepts of his Lord through his prophets…

Salt Lake City, Utah March 1979


I will let each of you draw your own conclusions.

While I was online in President Kimball’s journals, I took some time to read through a few years worth of entries. In doing so, I was struck by how generally uneventful the entries were. It seemed like President Kimball spent most days at luncheons and dinners and going to funerals or the hospital to see a family member or member of the Quorum. Or attending a gala or award ceremony… or at the Gym, getting a massage…

I understand that the President of the Church fulfills an executive leadership role and that his schedule will involve some of the above mentioned types of events. And I recognize that a man of his age would be busy in hospitals for himself and visiting others. But, what surprised me was that in the many years of personal journals I read, the president of the Church did not mention the Lord, the atonement, faith, hope, charity, the Book of Mormon, blessings of healings, revelations, visions, dreams, prophecy, the scriptures, or hardly anything of a spiritual nature whatsoever. Not from what I could see.

Safe and Effective? The Truth Matters

I’ve covered this topic previously in a November 10, 2021 post called Consequences of Compulsion as well as here and here. It’s a subject that I think merits some updated coverage.

From the beginning of the supposed pandemic, I’ve been skeptical of all the draconian measures, all so seemingly ready to implement, most specifically vaccination by force. It should go without saying that business and government have a legal and moral obligation to ensure that vaccines (or any product) are safe for public consumption and that people should then still be able to choose what they put into their own bodies — no matter the public health crisis — no matter the country — no matter the state.

Since my first post in 2021, many people I know and love have been coerced or inspired to get the untested CoVid19 vaccines. I do not judge anyone for doing so. I am truly sorry that so many people were put into impossible situations, however, and who had no real choice. For those who took the vaccine and have no regrets or negative side effects, I am grateful you are well and pray that continues.

Mostly because of my skepticism I think, my heart told me to go in a different direction. I concede that I was able to do so without fear of losing my job, which obviously made the decision easier, although it was still met with opposition at every turn it seemed. And still is to some degree.

Please do not read this post and assume I think less of you for doing what you felt was right. Your decisions for your health are your own. I do hope you can read this post with a willingness to consider that, perhaps, something terrible has been done to all of us and that not being able to see that now may only make things worse. Worse for our freedoms, our future, our health, the health of friends and loved ones, and especially worse for our ability to discern and choose truth over error. I love the RE Glossary definition for Truth:

Knowledge of things as they are and as they were and as they are to come (T&C 93:8). You can only know the truth by having it revealed to you from heaven itself (see T&C 69:29). “We must know the truth. The truth informs us how things are (now, today, in our current peril). The truth informs us of how things were (revealing exactly what happened, without mythical or political overlay, with its disappointments and tragedies candidly depicted). The truth informs us of the things to come (even if the prophecies and promises dash our hopes, crush our vanity and expose our foolishness). Without the truth it is impossible to repent. In order to take people captive, all that is required is for people to be content with their ignorance. The greatest threat to salvation does not come from teaching false doctrine but instead comes from ignoring doctrine altogether. Substituting platitudes and truisms for careful, ponderous and solemn investigation of the deep things of God is sufficient to keep people in the chains of captivity. It isn’t necessary for the devil to convince you of lies, only for him to make you content in your ignorance or fearful of the search for truth.” (My emphasis added)

I will place links to stories of real people throughout this post, beginning with this one:

12 Year Old Football Player Dies Suddenly At Practice

Background (From my vantage)

President Trump pushed for a “warp speed” response to Covid-19; a suspiciously timed “pandemic” purportedly created and released in Wuhan China, funded by US tax dollars.

Trump knew that the way the world was responding to this “virus” could single-handedly prevent him from winning a second term. He was damned if he did or didn’t do anything. If he shut down the economy as the rest the world was doing (minus Sweden), he threatened the very thing he could rightfully boast of — a great economy. If he followed Sweden’s example, he would surely be impeached and removed from office and prosecuted for “crimes against humanity” (such was the political climate at the time… maybe still is…). No herd immunity option for Trump (or the USA, more importantly) as much as logic would have informed and inspired him. Not right before the election if he or anyone else wanted him to win.

The planned pandemic that became the focus of the entire planet was indeed about accomplishing many things.

First and foremost, CoVid-19 was about getting rid of Trump. As an American Populist, and as the most polarizing and “popular” president of our lifetime, not likely yet completely owned by the establishment, he stood in the way of their Global UN 2030 goals.

As they were processing Trump out, they simultaneously pressed harder (and immediately) to impose 1984-like controls that would force compliance and destroy many freedoms overnight, thus ceding liberties to aspiring globalist sycophants anxious to reset the planet.

15 Year Old Star Soccer Player Dies Suddenly

CoVid-19 had given them cover for the election theft that was perpetrated on a level “never seen before in our country,” as Trump would say.

In hindsight, Trump was right about many things related to CoVid. Herd immunity, for example, would have been a better option, rather than closing down the entire world. He was right about masks and social distancing that didn’t do anything to curb the spread or save lives. Trump was right about Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine working as treatments and prophylaxes. And he was right that the bio weapon came from China.

But, along the way Trump made a terrible mistake.

Trump’s greatest misstep was to buy into the mRNA vaccines that had been in the works at least since 2012. In his desperation, Trump was dying to take credit for what he likely believed to be the only way to save our nation. “Warp speed. Miracle cure.” Surely if he could just get the cure out before the election and get the economy back open, he could stay in office and prevent the coup.

But alas, he walked right into their nefarious trap. They had the mRNA vaccines ready for him to put his name right on them and to give them legitimacy with an emergency use authorization order only a president can give, despite not going through the normal, rigorous approval processes to ensure their safeness and effectiveness. The fact that Trump was not politically aligned with the globalists made it even better.

To this day, when Trump mentions “miracle warp speed vaccines,” he gets booed by his most ardent supporters. Sadly, he can’t recognize his own hubris nor will he or can he now admit he was wrong. Not now and maybe not ever. He has too much blood on his hands, even if he was duped.

Pro Soccer player in Norway collapses suddenly, Cardiac Arrest

…And so does the LDS church.

The church did not have the same motives as Trump. The church, like most global entities, saw early on that it had very few options. Much like the realities the Wilford Woodruff era church was confronted with, it was very much a comply or die scenario. And comply they did. In fact, they did more than comply, choosing to become the poster boy for advocacy, they took up their bully pulpit and preached compliance with all the religious zeal they could muster.

LDS Church President Russell Nelson, a doctor who has used his medical credentials to promote the untested mRNA vaccine, has all but promised people in the name of the Lord that they are “safe and effective.” As a result, literally tens of millions of people who otherwise might not have taken the experimental jab, have.

When it came to religious exemptions, they offered none. Children and young people who were healthy and not at risk of death, were compelled (if not coerced) to comply. Even today, young, healthy, not at risk missionary and college age kids, are now vaccinating as a sign of obedience to the “living prophet” and in order to attend church schools and/or with the hopes of serving foreign missions. I received this terribly sad comment from one reader recently:

I have two daughters at university in Provo. One of my two daughters has a damaged heart from the COVID vaccine. I’m very disappointed in the response from the prophet. As things these days are looking like the vaccine is completely worthless and just injures people. I’m just wondering where their allegiance is. How can they so easily sacrifice my beautiful daughter. How were they duped to follow our corrupt government and politicians. How did the prophet make such a big mistake? We were always taught to follow the prophet and we won’t go astray. We were always taught to take care of our temples, our bodies. Never to use alcohol, coffee tea or drugs. How could the prophet be so deceived? For the last two and a half years, the media has lied to us and the church has lied to us as well! The prophet is a heart doctor, how ironic. It’s my understanding in the medical profession the number one rule is to do no harm. How many hearts has the prophet damaged? I’m sure I’m not the only one there must be hundreds or thousands like me.

My heart goes out to this parent and the many others like him.

Some people tried to stand their ground and many lost their jobs while the church told them they were not Christlike. Like the globalist propagandists, the church marginalized, shamed, and abandoned its own “rebellious” anti-vaxxers.

18 year old athlete on life support after suffering cardiac arrest in basketball game

The likes of Elder Rasband were caught on hot mics making condescending comments about those of us who sought to be free to choose. “Among MY Brethren,” he says, “we’re wondering what will happen when we ask you to do something really hard!” In other words, “Come on people, DO as you’re told! Be obedient to US, NO MATTER WHAT!” This is the test! …in their minds.

Meanwhile, and now two years into this science experiment, people are dying at alarming rates all around the world suddenly and unexpectedly and not from CoVid.

My friend who is a doctor and who has bought fully into the propaganda has stated, “Well we knew this was coming (referring to the spike in deaths) because of 18 months worth of skipped cancer screenings, etc.” How convenient (and preposterous). Another friend, when I asked him if he had noticed an increase in athletes dying flippantly said, “remember Len Bias? It’s called cocaine overdoses!” Really? All 20% of the increase in deaths (more like 400% in young healthy people) is from drug overdoses? Again, ridiculous. The effects of propaganda. Not supported by reality, the numbers, truth, or “science” for that matter. Yet, strangely, many otherwise intelligent people are unable to look at what’s happening all around us objectively.

There’s a reason, I think, for this kind of willful ambivalence. It’s because we all have loved ones, young and old, who have taken the vaccine, or we have taken it ourselves. No one wants to consider that they or their loved one has potentially been lied to and possibly poisoned. Or that their church leader or favorite politician has lied to them or was misled. Or that their child could collapse and die, suddenly.

And so what are we collectively doing as a world? Instead of confronting the issue, we choose to not be rational about it. We’re literally doing what many Germans knowingly did during Hitler’s reign of terror. Some call it Mass Formation Psychosis, where people refuse to see things happening right before their eyes. Is it fear? Denial? Pride? Naïveté? Politics? Religion? Whatever it is, it’s blinded many people on this planet to the truth that anyone even trying to squint at would normally see.

25 year old goalkeep dies suddenly after stopping penalty kick

Some are beginning to awaken, however. Last year the Princess of Thailand collapsed while jogging and is believed to be in a coma. Stories like hers can be found all over the news, if one is interested in seeing the truth. I’ve included below many links to those news stories I’ve bumped into in just the last month or two I’ve been working on this post. I highly recommend you take a look. Among those links are also recommendations for people worried their health may been compromised by the vaccines or from vaccine shedding or from CoVid19.

Trump once boasted he “could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and not lose a single voter.” On this issue, I think Trump is so “yugely” wrong. He has proudly boasted he saved 2.2 million lives (recently he said maybe 100 million!) by creating the vaccines and by all he did during the CoVid pandemic. Hindsight tells a different story… one that history may never tell correctly, sadly, but that you and I would do well to try to discern. Lives could depend on it still.

But How Could Prophets Be So Wrong?

The church and specifically the men who call themselves prophets, seers, and revelators, in their zeal to be good global citizens are now also responsible for the deaths of untold thousands of people. Maybe 100s of thousands. I know people in my own small town who have been injured or killed by the vaccines.

One young man was just graduating from high school. He was perfectly healthy and was extremely active. Some time after receiving the vaccine, he developed a cancer so rare that only two other people in the world were known to have ever had it. After several rounds of chemo and a full bone marrow transplant, he contracted another rare unknown cancer. Within 5 months of being vaccinated he was gone. His LDS family was and remains devastated and is still unwilling to consider, as far as I know, that their son’s death was related in any way whatsoever to the vaccine he received. How many others are like them?

Another friend of mine was only 50. He was a bishop with a young family and a successful business. He was a delightful person in every way. He, after being vaccinated, contracted a rare and aggressive brain cancer and was gone in just a few months time.

Another long time friend was vaccinated and shortly thereafter contracted lymphoma. She’s now fighting for her life.

Some dear friends of ours have a son whose former soccer coach died of a heart attack at age 35.

Many of you probably also have friends who have been adversely affected and have heard  stories from people you know.

Of course we also all have friends or know people who have died from CoVid19. Although the survival rate is 99.95% across the board, it is still such a great tragedy that this man-made virus has taken so many innocent people.

It should be acknowledged that young people are and never were at risk generally of dying from the virus, especially babies and toddlers. Is the “cure”now more deadly than the disease? How many innocent people have died as a result of our agency being taken away and for having been lied to?

The rate of increase in death among the vaccinated, that the whole world is completely ignoring, is unacceptably tragic and is a sign that the propagandist liars are winning.

23 year old University of Arizona swimmer dies suddenly 

One only now needs to look around to see that something is incredibly wrong. Children are dying on soccer fields. Healthy people are dying in races. On stage. On air. On flights. Collapsing in NFL football games and in high school and college basketball games. Thousands of people. Maybe hundreds of thousands. All cause mortality rates are off the charts all around the world. On any given year there will be an increase or a decline of 1%. Now it’s at a 20% increase! That’s a 2000% increase in deaths. Yet, no major news outlets and certainly no Church leader in Salt Lake is sounding the alarm.

Although Some Have Changed Their Tune, Most Have Not

Some people who have been vaccinated have now changed their tune and ARE sounding the alarm. Robert Kennedy. Dr. Malone. Scott Adams. Elon Musk. Joe Rogan. Dan Bongino. Many others. The latter of the aforementioned said recently that “taking the vaccine is the greatest regret of his life.”

But completely unrepentant and not backing off from their feckless positions are the Brethren and Donald J. Trump.

CoVid for the church is very much like polygamy. They complied because they saw that they might lose important things if they didn’t. The ability to have missionaries in the field, for example. They clearly are also fearful of being canceled as they were in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. To this day, ironically, they need polygamy to be true, even if it wasn’t or isn’t. Even if it didn’t come from Joseph Smith. They need it to come from him! Otherwise their authority claims are called into question and that cannot be allowed to happen. At the time, they complied and allowed it to be written in their scriptures that the polygamy commandment was being taken away even though Brigham and others prophesied that if the church ever abandoned polygamy it would be in apostasy. They didn’t want to lose their churches, their temples, their state, their money. So, even though Brigham Young said it would lead the church into apostasy, they complied with government to keep their things. And now today the church needs the vaccines to be safe and effective lest they be denounced as false prophets. Worse, accomplices to murder.

As for Trump, he would have done well to not have been so quick to put his name on something so untested. I don’t know what the effect would be on his presidential ambitions if he were to now come clean. It would be the right thing to do of course and some people are calling for it, suggesting they won’t support him if he doesn’t. I do know that what he’s already declared and done is unforgivable morally and politically and may prevent him from winning. If he says nothing further about his miracle vaccines, as his advisors are telling him to do, blame can always still be laid at his feet. He is once again damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t.

Many, many people have blood on their hands and they are displaying horrible arrogance in not admitting their error. So many have died at their hands. That’s the truth and it matters.

As for the Church, for far too long have the false ideas been preached and accepted that the Brethren cannot lead us astray. It began with Brigham not Joseph. It’s not in the scriptures. But, it’s become scripture for the LDS Church. (See “I am Scripture” — David Bednar) This is what Brigham said during his time as president:

I am here to give this people, called Latter-day Saints, counsel to direct them in the path of life. I am here to answer; I shall be on hand to answer when I am called upon, for all the counsel and for all the instruction that I have given to this people. If there is an Elder here, or any member of this Church, called the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, who can bring up the first idea, the first sentence that I have delivered to the people as counsel that is wrong, I really wish they would do it; but they cannot do it, for the simple reason that I have never given counsel that is wrong; this is the reason. This people, called Latter-day Saints, have been laboring now over forty years. Source

My brothers and sisters, friends, family and loved ones — the truth matters. Leaders we trusted have been very wrong. People are dying. If nothing else, those who have been hurt or lost should be honored, not ignored. And we can benefit now by embracing truth even if the implications are catastrophic.

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Fact – Pfizer Lied About the MRNA Shots

Austrian PM collapses after saying ”mistrust of Vaccines are unfounded”

Brazilian anchor Rafael Silva, 36, collapsed and suffered a cardiac arrest on live TV

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For every athlete that collapses there are thousands of others we don’t know of — 3 million more people are disabled in US in 2021, and rising

In Dec. 2021, Manchester United defender Victor Lindelöf, 28, struggled to breathe, pointed to his heart, and was taken off the field with apparent chest pain.

Oct. 2021, FC Barcelona star Sergio Aguero, 33, collapsed on the field due to chest pain and breathing issues that have since forced him to retire.

In Jan. 2022, Mali star Ousmane Coulibaly, 32, suffered a heart attack on the pitch and was given emergency medical attention as the match was abandoned.

The excess death rate of working-age people also increased in these European nations after mRNA vaccines were introduced

This increase in the death rate of working-age people also appears in the CDC’s Mortality database.

The Society of Actuaries Research Institute published its COVID-19 Mortality Survey Report.

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Pfizer has habitually engaged in illegal and corrupt marketing practices, bribed physicians, & suppressed adverse trial results.

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Dr. Bret Weinstein tells Joe Rogan that the mRNA shots “have cost more lives than they have saved.”The claims that the covid shots saved millions of lives are “utter nonsense” based on a model that “they fed garbage.”

17,000 doctors and scientists signed a treaty that declared: “Pfizer, Moderna, BioNTech, Janssen, AstraZeneca, and their enablers withheld and wilfully omitted safety and effectiveness information from patients and physicians, and should be immediately indicted for fraud.”

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The Pathway to One Heart

I would rather submit to the decision of the group than insist that my view be followed. For me, harmony between brethren is more important than getting what I think best to be followed. I believe harmony can lead to much greater things than can merely enforcement of even a correct view. I know how difficult it is to have a correct view, because of how often I have been corrected by the Lord. Sometimes I am humiliated by my foolishness when the Lord reproves me. Humiliation can lead to humility, but my experience is that the humiliation is accompanied by shame, whereas humility can proceed with a clear conscience. My experience with others leads me to conclude that if we can have one heart first, eventually we can likewise come to have one mind. But if we insist on having one mind at the outset, we may never obtain one heart together” (Epigraph from the Restoration Edition of the scriptures).

The word  “epigraph” has profound meaning. The fact one has been placed in the beginning of one of the Restoration volumes of scripture is something we should take notice of. As I read its definition, I am both inspired and rebuked by its many implications it has for me personally and for the group at hand aspiring to be of one heart and eventually, one mind.

Defining Epigraph:

  1. An inscription, as on a statue or building.
  2. A motto or quotation, as at the beginning of a literary composition, setting forth a theme.
  3. An inscription cut or impressed on stone, metal, or other permanent material, as distinguished from a writing in manuscript, etc.; specifically, in archaeology, a terse inscription on a building, tomb, monument, or statue, denoting its use or appropriation, and sometimes incorporated in its scheme of ornamentation.
  4. A superscription or title at the beginning of a book, a treatise, or a part of a book.
  5. In lit., a citation from some author, or a sentence framed for the purpose, placed at the commencement of a work or of one of its separate divisions; a motto.
  6. Any inscription set upon a building; especially, one which has to do with the building itself, its founding or dedication.
  7. A citation from some author, or a sentence framed for the purpose, placed at the beginning of a work or of its separate divisions; a motto.
  8. an inscription, especially one on a building etc. (American Heritage Dictionary, my emphasis added).

For a people having been commanded to build a “house,” the definition of this word should carry additional meaning, thus “setting forth a theme” and a “motto” for both the scriptures and for those claiming to believe in them.

Relegating something so important as to have been added to our new canon, to only one event or process, rather than adopting it as the inscription on OUR house, would be, in my view, a mistake. The spirit of this Epigraph, along with the definition from the Lord on “mutual agreement” can and should form the basis of everything we try to accomplish together.

A Theme of the Book of Mormon

Perhaps the most important message from the Book of Mormon is the continual warning to avoid the spirit of contention. That record is a warning, after all, from two civilizations that ended in civil war and ultimately self-destruction.

For the very small group that left with Lehi, it was the attitudes of Laman and Lemuel that formed the basis of arguments eventually used to justify war among nations.

And now it came to pass that I, Nephi, was exceeding sorrowful because of the hardness of their hearts. And now when they saw that I began to be sorrowful, they were glad in their hearts, insomuch that they did rejoice over me, saying, We knew that ye could not construct a ship, for we knew that ye were lacking in judgment; wherefore, thou canst not accomplish so great a work. And thou art like unto our father, led away by the foolish imaginations of his heart. Yea, he hath led us out of the land of Jerusalem, and we have wandered in the wilderness for these many years. And our women have toiled, being big with child; and they have borne children in the wilderness and suffered all things save it were death. And it would have been better that they had died before they came out of Jerusalem than to have suffered these afflictions. Behold, these many years we have suffered in the wilderness, which time we might have enjoyed our possessions and the land of our inheritance; yea, and we might have been happy. And we know that the people who were in the land of Jerusalem were a righteous people, for they keep the statutes and the judgments of the Lord, and all his commandments according to the law of Moses; wherefore, we know that they are a righteous people. And our father hath judged them and hath led us away because we would hearken unto his word; yea, and our brother is like unto him. And after this manner of language did my brethren murmur and complain against us (1 Nephi 5:17 RE).

Untold bloodshed came from this original set of arguments. I can only assume that Laman and Lemuel were at some point sincere and that they believed they were in the right. Surely they believed their arguments were more logical and reasonable than Nephi and Lehi’s who were not relying on any science or “logic” whatsoever in their decisions. A pillar of fire dad, are you serious? That’s why we’re leaving our wealth and our home to go into the wilderness!? I’m sure they felt like victims to the majority when their father and mother and brothers all decided to flee.

Their dispute and their desire for disputing fueled the contention of future generations. We see the same story played out today in Israel from the seed of Ishmael, or you could say “In Palestine from the seed of Isaac.”

Another example from the Book of Mormon that offers us a cautionary tale comes from the story of the Kingmen. Before being known as Kingmen, someone among them came up with the idea that the law should be changed… just slightly. This person’s idea was shared with others. I’m guessing it could have began as a very reasonable argument believed to be inspired by God. (Many people attribute their “good” ideas — or the idea they can’t get out of their mind — as inspired by God). Eventually some portion of the people agreed with the idea and it led to a larger debate. In Alma we find the account:

…For behold, there were a part of the people who desired that a few particular points of the law should be altered. But behold, Parhoron would not alter, nor suffer the law to be altered; therefore, he did not hearken to those who had sent in their voices with their petitions concerning the altering of the law. Therefore, those who were desirous that the law should be altered were angry with him and desired that he should no longer be chief judge over the land. Therefore, there arose a warm dispute concerning the matter, but not unto bloodshed (Alma 23:1 RE, my emphasis added).

The practice used to settle their dispute was the same used by any civilized free group of people — they took a vote to find the voice of the people:

And it came to pass that this matter of their contention was settled by the voice of the people. And it came to pass that the voice of the people came in favor of the Freemen; and Parhoron retained the judgment seat, which caused much rejoicing among the brethren of Parhoron and also among the people of liberty, who also put the Kingmen to silence, that they durst not oppose, but were obliged to maintain the cause of freedom (Alma 23:3 RE, my emphasis added).

By this sad experience we learn that even the smallest amount of contention or debate can eventually lead to terrible, violent outcomes. This was the unfortunate result for Moroni’s countrymen and when the voice of the people was disregarded by the minority Kingmen, all hope for a peaceful resolution to their conflict was gone. The die was now cast. They had destroyed the mechanism to resolve disputes peacefully.

Moroni expresses his lamentation in his epistle to Parhoran, who as you’ll recall was a righteous leader even though Moroni was concerned at the time of this letter to him, that he too had become wicked:

For were it not for the wickedness which first commenced at our head, we could have withstood our enemies, that they could have gained no power over us. Yea, had it not been for the war which broke out among ourselves, yea, were it not for those Kingmen who caused so much bloodshed among ourselves, yea, at the time we were contending among ourselves if we had united our strength as we hitherto have done, yea, had it not been for the desire of power and authority which those Kingmen had over us, had they been true to the cause of our freedom and united with us, and gone forth against our enemies instead of taking up their swords against us, which was the cause of so much bloodshed among ourselves — yea, if we had gone forth against them in the strength of the Lord, we should have dispersed our enemies, for it would have been done according to the fulfilling of his word. But behold, now the Lamanites are coming upon us and they are murdering our people with the sword, yea, our women and our children, taking possession of our lands, and also carrying them away captive, causing them that they should suffer all manner of afflictions, and this because of the great wickedness of those who are seeking for power and authority, yea, even those Kingmen (Alma 27 RE, my emphasis added).

The brother of Jared is an example from the Book of Mormon of someone emulating the spirit of the Epigraph. Although he knew what establishing a king would eventually lead to, the brother of Jared did not impose his more enlightened view on the majority. A friend of mine recently pointed out that the voice of the people may have only been achieved through a very small majority in this instance, recalling that nearly all the sons of the brother of Jared and of Jared (total of 34 children) turned down the opportunity to be king. Undoubtedly their unwillingness to be king was reflective of their views on the matter. This may have even been a contentious debate, but when the voice of the people spoke, in my view, it would have been more harmful for the brother of Jared and others still opposed, to go about forever contending against the outcome. Which they clearly could have done. And they would have been “right.” But such a combative, unruly spirit establishes an untenable precedent for settling any future debates, where some new dissenting voice clamors and preaches and imposes itself until finally the majority yields, only to make way for the next dissenting voice to mimic those same methods. To what end?

”We Must Do Better”

Disputes of any nature can prevent a group from becoming one heart. For those aspiring to be a part of the last days’ Zion, becoming one heart, we are instructed, is the essential first step to becoming one mind. “If we insist on having one mind at the outset, we may never obtain one heart together.” (Epigraph)

The Lord has rebuked our small group for our contention and for continuing to allow our disputes to keep us from becoming one heart. I’m personally saddened by the role I’ve played, thus causing the Lord himself to feel the need to correct us:

You have sought to recover the scriptures because you hope to obtain the covenant for my protective hand to be over you, but you cannot be Satan and be mine. If you take upon you my covenant, you must abide it as a people to gain what I promise. You think Satan will be bound a thousand years, and it will be so, but do not understand your own duty to bind that spirit within you so that you give no heed to accuse others. It is not enough to say you love God; you must also love your fellow man. Nor is it enough to say you love your fellow man while you, as Satan, divide, contend, and dispute against any person who labors on an errand seeking to do my will. How you proceed must be as noble as the cause you seek. You have become your own adversaries, and you cannot be Satan and also be mine. Repent, therefore, like Peter and end your unkind and untrue accusations against one another, and make peace. How shall there ever come a thousand years of peace if the people who are mine do not love one another? How shall Satan be bound if there are no people of one heart and one mind? (T&C 157:10, my emphasis added).

Is it possible that our contentions will prevent us from being a part of Zion or from creating Zion in this generation? If we think it’s not possible, then we are fools. We can and will fail, if we as a people, are prone to debate. As noble as one may believe a cause to be, and as “patiently” as that cause may be promoted, if that cause leads to debate and seeks to upend a majority decision, then in my view it is not from God. Satan wants us to argue with each other and sews the seeds that disrupt civility. Jesus chose to not dispute even though He could have every day of His life.

A Revelation From God Defining Mutual Agreement


Answer given to Denver Snuffer Jr., 29 November 2017, in response to a request to understand how the Lord defines “mutual agreement” as used in the Answer to Prayer for Covenant. Sustained as scripture through an online vote 12 May 2019.

  1. As between one another, you choose to not dispute.
  2. When the definition was given, it was accompanied by the realization the Lord could have disputed every day of His life with someone. He deliberately chose to not contend. He was not an argumentative personality.

Mutual agreement simply means WE choose to NOT dispute with one another. For those of us choosing to dispute, how can we justify ourselves when the Lord makes it so clear that it’s a choice we must make. It doesn’t mean that ALL will always agree or that we will ever achieve unanimity. It does mean, to me, that I have the power to not be froward and to not disrupt the harmony among my brethren, no matter how noble I believe my cause to be.

“Dispute” is also an interesting word the Lord chooses to use. It is defined as:

  • To argue about; debate.
  • To argue or debate with (someone).
  • To question the truth or validity of; doubt.

… And He says we must not do it “as between one another.” Sobering and humbling.


What seems to be loud and clear from the Lord and his servant(s) is that we need to “stop our damn squabbling,” and that the Lord has bigger and better things for us to accomplish, if we can learn to be more humble and more meek and more patient and more kind and more precious to one another. Charity, not knowledge, it seems has more to do with the pathway to one heart than any other principle. We can love each other even if we disagree on important ideas and we can live in peace and harmony if we simply choose to not dispute among one another. 

The more one contends with others the more he is taken captive by the spirit of contention. Everyone becomes subject to the spirit they submit to follow. Those who are prone to contention become more contentious as they listen to that spirit. Eventually they are overcome by that spirit, and it is a great work involving great effort to subdue and dismiss that spirit from the heart and mind of the victim. There are many who dispute the inspiration others have received. There are two concerns with the decision a good person makes to dispute with others: First, the Lord’s example is to refrain from disputing, as He did. When confronted, He would respond, but He did not go about picking a fight with others. He responded. The only exception was when He went up to Jerusalem to be slain. Then He went into the seat of Jewish power and authority to throw it down and provoke their decision to finally judge, reject, and crucify Him. He, and not they, controlled that timing. His provocation at that time was a deliberate act on His part because His “time had come,” and His sacrifice needed to be made. Second, the Lord has given the Doctrine of Christ in scripture. Just before the Doctrine of Christ, He says what His doctrine is not: Neither shall there be disputations among you concerning the points of my doctrine, as there hath hitherto been. For verily, verily I say unto you, he that hath the spirit of contention is not of me, but is of the Devil, who is the father of contention; and he stirreth up the hearts of men to contend with anger, one with another. Behold, this is not my doctrine, to stir up the hearts of men with anger, one against another, but this is my doctrine, that such things should be done away (3 Nephi 5:8). And then He proceeds to declare His doctrine of Christ. The more contention and disputation there is with one another, the better the people become at contention. Rhetorical skills are polished. That spirit of contention can take possession, and when it does, one is hard-pressed to be a peacemaker with others. Christ said: And blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy. And blessed are all the pure in heart, for they shall see God. And blessed are all the peacemakers, for they shall be called the children of God (Matthew 3:10–12). But peace should not be made at the cost of truth. Truth must be the only goal. Truth, however, belongs to God. Desires, appetites, and passions are prone to make people stray well beyond the bounds set by God. Therefore, when pride is gratified, one should question if truth is being advanced. When one’s ambition is served, he should question if he is in the Lord’s employ or his own. When someone insists upon control, one should question if he is like the Lord or, instead, like His adversary. When one uses any means for compelling others, one should wonder if he is mocking the God who makes the sun to shine and rain to fall on all His fallen children without compulsion. When one displays unrighteous dominion, he should question whether he is worthy of any dominion at all. Our tools must be limited to persuasion, gentleness, meekness, love unfeigned, and pure knowledge, with all of them marshaled “without compulsory means” to persuade others to accept the truth. And if we fail to make the persuasive case, then the problem is not others, the problem is that we’ve yet to figure out how to be sufficiently knowledgeable so as to bring them aboard. See also MUTUAL AGREEMENT. (RE Glossary, Contention).